Face it, silence must be one part of some assasin.

Tranoze··3 votes·684 views

Talon Kassadin Leblanc . Since they remove their silence, exept for Talon since he have enough dps and aoe damage, but Leblanc has 46,6% winrate and Kassadin has 44,59% win rate. Give Leblanc and Kassadin more mobility? seriously, they are ASSASIN, not SUPPORT, they need to kill their target (enemy ADC or AP) even the cost is their own death, not just moving around and cant do any thing on teamfight. Kassadin has 210% AP ratio on his combo (with item 3100, it 260), Leblanc has 360% Ap ratio seem good, but seriously, she can only use 60% of her combo cuz she have to escape more than stay there and die. To be fair, both Kassadin and Leblanc have to face really hard farming time unlike Viktor Ahri .
And yes, Viktor is now an assasin. Silence for Leblanc is fair cuz she have to use another skill on target. And you can item 3157 before she use the second skill or item 3140 to remove the mask or silence. Silence for Kassadin is fair cuz he have to use his ult twice to reach in to the target, And you can item 3157 before the ball hit you or item 3140 to remove the silence. Their silence are counterable for both ADC or AP, you said people cant do anything if they silenced, that wrong, WRONG, item 3157 and item 3140 are great counter against assasin. So why not give that back to them before LCS? I want to see some crazy Xpeke backdoor again. I know I want silence back for Talon too but i think he fine since he have 51% win rate.

9 Comments

DrCyanide2 votes

When you listed Viktor as an assassin you lost me. You may as well count Malzahar, Annie, Brand, and any other mage capable of bursting you down as an assassin then.

Wisniaksiadz1 votes

WAAAAIT wait wait, so bassicly, you are saying, that 1s silence on Talon was too much, BUT these 2s silences (dont remember lenght of LB) weren't too much, and these champs w/o them are just weak?

Tranoze1 votes

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WAAAAIT wait wait, so bassicly, you are saying, that 1s silence on Talon was too much, BUT these 2s silences (dont remember lenght of LB) weren't too much, and these champs w/o them are just weak?

we can counter the slience of Kassadin Leblanc by item 3157 and item 3140 . That what I mean. so you die by the silence because you dont try to counter it, not because you cant do anything. And Talon is fine cuz he have more than 50% winrate, i want his silence too, but i think no need to do anything to him. and talon's silence is cant counter with item 3157 (Talon's target mostly mid lane Ap, which can only build item 3157 against him, so his silence is strong.)

Wisniaksiadz1 votes

IMO Talon is only champ here, that should get his silence back. Kassa just silenced you every 12 sec, LB was able to do it even more often. Zhonya's CD is 120s, and Sash something like 90s I belive. Also wasting sash on something like silence is jsut stupid. And remember, winrate dont show, if champ is in good spot

RossMellow1 votes

Talon has the drawback of him having to use his E to silence an enemy, that makes the situations where he can silence limited since he cant silence someone from afar like LB or Kass can. I agree that he should get his silence back but in lane when he gets 6 it would be too easy to get kills against most champions.

I think that his silence early game is too strong and his silence late game is too weak with how he kill singular targets easily but when theyre grouped up a lot tougher. (Unless he's uber fed.)

pripustas1 votes

Actually Talon's winrate is about 50% for people who have >40 games on him. Being not that hard to play, that's a bad winrate. Problem he has is laning phase. It's horrendous. Most popular mid laners shit on him. You have to really know what you're doing to just survive. Azir, Ahri, Yasuo, Viktor, Orianna, Diana, Annie, Lux are all counters to him.

For those who will want to say "you have W, farm with it" he has limited mana, and W damage at early levels is very bad. If you hit someone with W both times (forward/backward) you'll do same damage as you would with 1 AA. Meaning it's not a reliable farming tool early.

Most Assassins have tools to go in, and get out. In Talon's case a 2sec invisibility is not what you can call remotely reliable.

Wisniaksiadz1 votes

but still, silence made him OP (sarcasm off)

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

You sounded as if both Leblanc & Kassadin are as immobile as Veigar. And LCS is already long gone. I don't mind watching the same old Azir/Orianna/Viktor/Ahri mid lane pick in Worlds, since Leblanc & Kass has already taken the spotlight at last year's LCS & Worlds.

Beoridas1 votes

im not disagreeing on kassadin since thats his role and there is ways for it to not be too much as a soft cc.

lb im not sure. and talon has a 58% win rate among his mains. 53% win rate atm overall. thats the highest among assassins. You couple that with 3rd highest kill ratio and among the best dmg mid lane and youve got yourself a pretty legit assassin.

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