LeaveBuster, as it is right now, is the stupidest way to punish people for leaving

AD champs only·Jun 28, 2017·4 votes·388 views

// nevermind, look at the comments

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EmotionlessJun 28, 20172 votes

I see no problem with the system. If they just "Banned" your account for a few days you could just log a smurf and there wouldn't really be any punishment, however with this you're forced to sit though the pain of the punishment.

KaiokoJun 28, 20172 votes

It does actually make sense. A 24 hour penalty doesn't really punish if you have multiple accounts or you actually do something else with your time (I know crazy there's more to life than LoL). A time queue up penalty actually punishes you accordingly. You wasted 9 other people's time thanks to your leave; now yours gets wasted as well. Lex talionis

dragfin12Jun 28, 20171 votes

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It makes no sense.

"Oh, you left 2 games, now you gotta wait 30-40 minutes for your match to be found"

Like, what the fuck ? The worst of all is, that shit wont expire even after 7 years of not-playing the game. If i have left the game in 2009 and decided to play one now in 2017 i'd still have to wait 40 minutes (including high elo ranked Queue) because of your system. You started reworking everything, fine, rework this so-called 'punish system' so it ACTUALLY makes sense and punishes people for leaving someone's game. Forcing someone to wait so long is not okay, doesnt make sense and is stupid overall. What would make sense ? Well, a 1h/2h/ ... /24h penalty. Basically if you left too much games then you wouldnt be able to play the game for let's say 3h. It would make sense, people wouldnt need to be on their computers 24/7 in order to get rid of this stupid ass leavebuster. I left 2 games because stupid ass electricity is SHIT in my town and now i gotta sit on this stupid shit for 6h to get rid of LEAVEBUSTER..

I know that my english is bad, but u got my point. If not.

REWORK FUCKING LEAVBUSTER ALREADY

Yeah I agree, after frequent leaver busters RIOT needs to buy a clue and start banning accounts and BTW you don't get leaver busted after leaving only 2 games.

EmotionlessJun 28, 20171 votes

Wait... You want people banned who leave too often... srsly?

dragfin12Jun 28, 20171 votes

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Wait... You want people banned who leave too often... srsly?

Treat leaver toxicity same as you do chat toxicity. It's really that simple. I been playing for 4 years and can count on one hand how many times I have left due to anything. Point is, I'm responsible. Too many are not and need to be punished accordingly. People report for chat toxicity and people get disciplined. Why can't there be discipline for this toxicity? It's worse because you can't mute these people. Frequent leavers/AFK's need to be banned eventually, just like those receiving chat discipline.

AD champs onlyJun 28, 20171 votes

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Yeah I agree, after frequent leaver busters RIOT needs to buy a clue and start banning accounts and BTW you don't get leaver busted after leaving only 2 games.

I didnt think so either, but i left 2 games at the very beginning and i got a lb, smh :{

HalcyonDwellerJun 28, 20171 votes

You might be able to appeal your leaverbuster if you can provide Riot Support with evidence that your town had a power outage at the same time you lost connection. I have no idea if this will work but it's worth a shot.

http://support.riotgames.com/

Best of luck to you.

AD champs onlyJun 28, 20171 votes

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You might be able to appeal your leaverbuster if you can provide Riot Support with evidence that your town had a power outage at the same time you lost connection. I have no idea if this will work but it's worth a shot.

http://support.riotgames.com/

Best of luck to you.

Not alot people here play League so it'd be just a waste of time :D Meh, if u gotta wait then u gotta wait..

HalcyonDwellerJun 28, 20171 votes

Then I am sorry for your frustrating experience. I hope that the wait timers go away soon enough for you.

I still think it might work to try that proof thing. Any reports or information provided by your power company would probably be sufficient to show that times matched when you disconnected.

SomeStarsJun 28, 20171 votes

i believe this is a good idea but people are down-voting because OP is kind of ranting. and just how you get your point across can have a huge effect on how people react, i have seen this happen so many times were a good argument was made but was never given any thought because "oh this guy is just ranting, and he needs to git gud."

i would recommend waiting until things calm down and then re-write your thoughts with a more positive attitude. you make a very valid point about not forcing people to play to get rid of there leaverbuster, but still providing a valid punishment

Jo0oJun 28, 20171 votes

What valid punishment is available, if not Leaverbuster?

SomeStarsJun 28, 20171 votes

well as the OP had said or requested in his post was a 1/2/3 or even 24 hour penalty such as not being allowed to play at all. instead of having to wait 20 minutes before 5 games until the leaverbuster is over

Jo0oJun 28, 20172 votes

That's so free!

A normal game is going poorly, so you just abandon your entire team and simply play a different game or watch Netflix until the next day!

Leaverbuster is SUPPOSED to be an inconvenience. Making it less inconvenient defeats the purpose!

SomeStarsJun 28, 20171 votes

well i for one think that it would be pretty inconvenient.

so lets say you come home from work or school, you want to play some league so you start a round.

and half way through you decide hey i'm going to be a troll and so you flame a few people and leave the game. now they aren't allowed to play for another couple hours, that is losing time you could have been playing league. (or trolling other people in games)

for each hour that's more then one game you miss.

and even when you have leaverbuster you can just open another tab and watch youtube or almost a full episode of our favorite show on netflix were as you can do the same thing with a 3/5/8 hour ban but you aren't really cheeting your way through it the same way.

Jo0oJun 28, 20171 votes

You can't have it both ways. Either it's less inconvenient, in which case Riot's not going to do it, or it's more inconvenient, in which case it defeats the purpose of this entire thread.

SomeStarsJun 28, 20171 votes

if i may ask in were did i say anything about having it both more inconvenient and less inconvenient.

and the whole moral of this new idea for a different leaverbuster is also very similar to something already integrated into the game which is the queue dodger penalty were it gives you a 6/15/30 minute timer before you are allowed to play

that also times down when you are not running league or creating a game and nobody has been complaining or had any sort of ill-will towards it yet.

Jo0oJun 28, 20171 votes

I apologize, I may not have worded that well. I didn't mean to imply that you wanted it both ways, but more that yours and OP's opinions seem to be entirely opposite. I get the impression that you like OP's idea because you think it will be a more effective deterrent of leavers, but OP wants his idea implemented because it would be less of an inconvenience for him if he leaves games.

Since you both have wildly different expectations for how such a change would impact the game, I'm understandably skeptical of how it would actually impact the community.

SomeStarsJun 28, 20171 votes

i can see what you mean how we have different views of it and i do really like his idea.

i see a lot of people on the boards complain that there power went out or there was an emergency im sure half of them are worth the criticism they receive but i think that this new form of punishment would make it easier to cater to those who had no control over there situation. such as experiencing a black-out or a family emergency

and also dealing out a more severe punishment to those who would leave just to troll games or because they didn't want to continue playing because they were autofilled or were experiencing some other unacceptable event

Jo0oJun 28, 20171 votes

That's not a bad point at all, thanks!

I am, however, still skeptical of those that trigger Leaverbuster "justifiably". I mean, I've had my own emergencies while playing League, and have AFK'd a total of three games due to one blackout and two sudden hurricanes forcing me to move. But that never triggered any sort of punishment for me, because there's built-in leniency.

I'm forced to suspect that somebody who loses power and gets a 20-minute leaverbuster penalty is actually a chronic AFKer who happened to have one legitimate AFK and came to the boards to complain.

I'll try to read up old official Riot stances on Leaverbuster to see if they commented on different ways of handling the timer.

AD champs onlyJun 28, 20171 votes

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i believe this is a good idea but people are down-voting because OP is kind of ranting. and just how you get your point across can have a huge effect on how people react, i have seen this happen so many times were a good argument was made but was never given any thought because "oh this guy is just ranting, and he needs to git gud."

i would recommend waiting until things calm down and then re-write your thoughts with a more positive attitude. you make a very valid point about not forcing people to play to get rid of there leaverbuster, but still providing a valid punishment

Ye , ik that my post seems like a rant but it's not a rant really, i just wanted to say how this system makes no sense and that it should be reworked . But ye, i used too many hard words here...

SomeStarsJun 28, 20171 votes

its ok i can understand what your trying to get across. but you did also provide a decent idea for a new system which a lot of people don't bother doing. and if its ok with you i'm thinking of actually re-doing your post, basically just cleaning it up a bit hoping to shine a new light on it

Jo0oJun 28, 20171 votes

You wouldn't have a leaverbuster from only two games, certainly not for 20 minutes, which is the max.

It's a necessary measure to prevent people from intentionally leaving games, surely you can see that. How else could such a practice be disincentivized?

HawckeyJun 28, 20171 votes

Honestly if someone manages to climb to a 20 minute penalty they should just fuck off from the game

HåppyJun 28, 20171 votes

My problem with LeaverBuster is once you queue up, if your client lags when you find your match or you suddenly have to cancel, you don't get that time shaved off how long you've waited. You get it re-applied. That sucks and it's stupid. I've already waited out my leaverbuster.. why you making me wait it out again because your client is poorly tuned?

AD champs onlyJun 29, 20171 votes

Actually, i didnt get a 20min pentalty on this acc since it's banned (ironic, huh). But on my friend's acc, and ye, he's a chronic afker. But i found it very frustrating to wait 20 minutes over and over and over. The Queue Dodge LeaveBuster is much better. You dont have to start the queue in order to get rid of it. And i like that. But this game LeaveBuster forces you to play in order to get rid of it. Thats what i wanted to say. Basically if the hour penalties arent ok with you, just make Game LeaveBuster the same as Queue dodge LeaveBuster. So when i come from school/vacation i dont have to play 5 bot games in order to remove my penalty. And i know not many people will see this message, so if the guy who actually liked the idea could make a clean and shiny post with this idea it'd be appriciated ! Thank you