Range indicator nerf was too much, and cast time on E allows for too much counterplay. If Rengar can't get into range or land his E early game once he hit's six he's legitimately useless. Should probably just delete him from the game until you completely rework him. :(
TL:DR i'm salty, rito went too far.
Frikgeek4 votesNobody cares about Rengar nerfs, he's still permabanned. He'll probably need old-Kassadin level nerfs before people stop banning him.
AChanceOfReign2 votesNobody cares about Rengar nerfs, he's still permabanned. He'll probably need old-Kassadin level nerfs before people stop banning him.
Or they could just pick more tanky champs and stick together and wards everywhere. It's easy to counter Rengar, it's just the people don't want to for some reason and want the champion to be gutted for personal reasons.
Frikgeek1 votesYes, because tanky mids, junglers, and adcs are so viable atm, right? You could pick a tank jungler but then your clears will be slow and you'll most likely be underleveled with good ganks that are extremely vulnerable to counterganks due to your lack of damage.
Tanky mids and adcs are basically nonexistant. Wards everyhere is kinda impossible with S6 changes as you only get 1 pink per player and they're easily killed if you're getting pushed in.
Sticking together is good against rengar but really bad against most meta tops atm. Malphite just loves it when you stick together and GP is pretty happy when he gets a 3-4 man barrel off.
WalkingInACircle1 votesYes, there is nothing imbalanced about the idea that the entire enemy team must alter all of their picks, builds, and play styles to counter one enemy champion simply for being picked. I mean, what do carries do anyway?
Destaice2 votesI wanna say this is sarcasm but you posted it in gameplay instead of general discussion.
HolyCrapItsMe2 voteshes not useless, now all the people who could play him brain dead have to calculate the cast time on his E to use it and its too much for their tiny brains.
Emperor Time2 votesThere's nothing to calculate. Against players who aren't slow they can flash/blink/any movement ability away now before Rengar's bola comes down. The old bola was fine before, you could still flash away from it before it came down, but now you have to be extremely brain dead to get hit by it now.
weeaboomer2 votes[{quoted}](name=Dark Chronicle 2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KcgQKhen,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-01-29T13:40:48.377+0000)
and cast time on E allows for too much counterplay.
Yes, an ability on that champ should not have any counter play to match his burst. #staysalty.
Emperor Time2 votesRengar's E had counterplay, you could still flash/dodge it, now it's just borderline impossible to land on anyone who has a brain cell.
khorney1 votesIndeed let's nerf the jump bolo on rengar but not kha jump q...... Rengar isn't op people for instance I was playing as varus and he did kill me then built hourglass and all of a sudden he was useless. And it's nothard to group is it
Packun Flower1 votesWhen they nerf him so he at least stops one shotting 4k+ HP full armor tanks, then maybe he'll come off the perma ban list.
maybe.
The point is Late game Rengar was unstoppable, he had no counter play and honestly these nerfs really aren't much of a nerf and nothing about him will change. He's still going to insta kill anyone on your team, his AD scaling is still one of the highest, making him one of the most powerful champs this game has to offer and once he decided to gank your lane or gank your ADC with his ult in late game then thats it, the team fights over, your match is over and he wins.
What these nerfs do is ton down his utility, this honestly wont fix him, they need to tone down his Power, plain and simple, people pick Rengar for his late game unstoppable power, and until thats addressed he will forever be a perma ban.
L0ve Is Blue1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dark Chronicle 2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KcgQKhen,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-01-29T13:40:48.377+0000)
cast time on E allows for too much counterplay
Or do you mean that it actualy now HAS a counterplay other than having a janna that ult as soon as Rengo jumps on your ADC?
Dusk Mane Rengar1 votesPratice bola and thats all he is gonna get buffed next patch you just need to adapt.
BvgV1efhln1 votesDude its Riot....they have no clue how to nerf chamions..... perfect example is vlad.
"Vlad heals to much.....lets nerf his dmg" - makes sense....
"Rengar is an assassin who can oneshot adc with almost no counterplay" - lets remove his combo and nerf his burst damage. so he is no assassin and to paper to be a bruiser
Right now rengar is just trash......he lost his burst, and he lost his kill combo. and on top of that his ulti detection range got increased by a million. why does he even has that ? where is twitchs detection range or shacos, or wukong, or talons ? its just a joke.