Shen Rework is the best rework Riot has done in a long time.

Xayah for Dinner··8 votes·662 views

this coming from a top laner who 1) played since the beta and 2) played high diamond elo for seasons 4 and 5.

I hated the old shen. He was boring. He always forced a stalemate. He literally could only be played one way in EVERY MATCH-UP.

Q, Q, Q, auto attack, negate damage, Q, Q, Q, auto attack, negate damage, Q, Q, Q, ........ how can anyone look at that and think "what a clever design"

What I like about the new shen:

Rewarded for being good you can't play like a mentally challenged person and get away with it anymore much better at laning against ranged champions

(explanations) New shen can make excellent combinations of abilities, like, dash>taunt>Q for the long distance SKILL SHOT>boom attack speed>win trade Now I feel like I'm actually making a difference when I use my ultimate, because I'm shielding my ally, then shielding ALL my allies, then hard CC'ing the enemy, and doing damage to boot.

I don't understand the complaints, oh wait, yes I do, because low elo players will cry over everything.

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Death by Glamour2 votes

His abilities are dine its his movement animation i dont like... and no backing animation

Xayah for Dinner1 votes

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His abilities are dine its his movement animation i dont like... and no backing animation

Now this I can agree with

his movement is a little awkward to look at, and he should get a back animation.

NoPaxt2 votes

he needs his sustain back.... a Shen tank without sustain is just plain silly!

Penns4 votes

Amumu Malphite Nautilus Rammus Sejuani Sion Skarner TahmKench kek

Ralanr2 votes

Thank you. Seriously why do people think a tank without sustain is impossible to use?

Xayah for Dinner1 votes

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Thank you. Seriously why do people think a tank without sustain is impossible to use?

because they suck and can't execute the shen combo properly

the shen combo is devastating.

NoPaxt1 votes

or maybe Shen's base stats don't work for his kit. Shortest attk range in the game. No poke. No disengage. And need you to be between him and his spirit blade for Q to be effective. Lost his damage reduction from taunt.

Xayah for Dinner4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stark of Wrath,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KRwAKTZJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-29T13:19:34.273+0000)

he needs his sustain back.... a tank without sustain is just plain silly!

he doesn't need sustain when he's getting a giant shield every few seconds. learn to play

NoPaxt2 votes

his shield has a long delay on it depending on how far away the spirit blade is, and your w activate around the blade, so both shields are delayed...

Ralanr2 votes

The delay is decreased when his abilities affect allies.

NoPaxt2 votes

I'm talking about the delay from the spirit blade having to travel to you from where ever it was last left. Q and W only activate with and on the blade respectively. If you wait to engage before you activate it's too late, if you activate as they engage you, they can just walk away because you have zero range now with no poke.

Xayah for Dinner1 votes

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I'm talking about the delay from the spirit blade having to travel to you from where ever it was last left. Q and W only activate with and on the blade respectively. If you wait to engage before you activate it's too late, if you activate as they engage you, they can just walk away because you have zero range now with no poke.

blah blah blah

you can't complain about being required to execute a skill shot in order to have the best trade potential in the game

this is me playing the new shen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGctT_GYK_Q&feature=youtu.be

NoPaxt2 votes

so you beat a bad Fiora? What's your point...

Xayah for Dinner1 votes

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so you beat a bad Fiora? What's your point...

you're bronze 5 26 LP

That fiora would whip you the fuck to Mars and back. so you don't get to call him bad.

Dreadlocks1 votes

you can't complain about being required to execute a skill shot in order to have the best trade potential in the game

Misses taunt, still wins trade vs a fiora @ 10%hp vs 50%.. lol.

Ralanr1 votes

Oh the delay? Yeah it feels kinda slow, specially when jungling.

S H A Y C 03 votes

he had a giant shield every few seconds before...and he needed the sustain then, so whats your point?

S H A Y C 02 votes

im still i love with the poppy rework myself...but shen is "k"

DREADN0UGHT2 votes

I agree. New Shen is dope. Closest thing to Sion's rework imo.

Shahamut1 votes

I personally love the Shen rework. Do I think its flawless? Nope. The only thing I don't like about it is the lack of a fall back plan. Missing Taunt really stinks, and even hitting it can make you very vulnerable to ganks.

As stated, I love this rework :) but I do feel the risk vs reward is a little off. It would be nice to have something happen when the blade hits a champion other than the "more dmg on autos" and attack speed. I will go in and win an early trade, then as the wave pushes back against me, I find myself wishing I could just pull that blade through them to cap off the trade, but alas, it was not meant to be.

Did I mention that I really like the rework though? Like, I feel like I ACTUALLY do damages! And although I think laning vs ranged is a little tougher without the ability to farm with vorpal blade, laning vs melee has gotten much better, Darius pulls you, you bring your blade, and hit W. He misses his auto and reset, he retreats with his Q, you stay on him and take no bleed stacks! AMAZING (did this once already)

Gentzer1 votes

I like that they replaced his sustain with shielding that is based on hitting abilities. It rewards Shen for predicting when his enemies will hit him, and then Shen using an ability to shield up the attack, rather than just hitting Q whenever and winning for it. That's some nice design.

DeathBurst1 votes

I mostly agree with you, except the elo-shaming in the end. That was a good thread with valid arguments, why go this ugly route?

kasfas1 votes

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