Tanks I must agree do seem to have a loss in terms of effectiveness. The game has become quicker and players want to see tanks become a bigger part of the game, but what I ask from you is how much do you guys want to see tanks be tanky? IMO I want to see tanks become raid bosses again.
I think I'd like a rock paper scissors meta where no on class is best or worst class and each has its strengths and weaknesses over other classes.
No meta meta.
Give me the S5 tank meta without the broken champions like Sejuani and we're good to go.
I want every class/type of champion to scale equally to all other classes and types of champions (note that that doesn't mean I want each individual champion to scale the same). I want there to be early-game mages and late-game mages. I want there to be early-game tanks and late-game tanks. I want there to be early-game RADs and late-game RADs. And so on as well as everything in between.
As for what I want out of tanks specifically, I hate that whether or not they are viable depends on the amount of damage they can output. I want them to force the enemy team to deal with them for reasons other than "well, he'll kill me if I don't kill him first".
Nasus is still a raid boss
I want Meddler to think about base numbers and internal balance. For example, I want Rakan's base ad to not be the highest in the game. Jungle camps stronger and more rewarding for slower clears. I want trading in lane, without the immense passive power given by runes. I want turrets to not be gold farms. I want the green trinkets buffed so vision control can flourish again. I want Baron and Dragon to do more damage. I want a greater selection of AP items, especially another ap/ar item. I still want barrier to last 5 seconds so it completely counters ignite. Etc...
You know what's funny? I'm duoing a guy who used to be D IV down in Gold/Silver. Last night we purely got carried by a Mundo, because we were vs a Sivir/Sona, who at least the Sivir was heavy smurfing (probably current diamond)
But even though Sivir/Sona got online..... Our Mundo/Cho Gath were literally almost able to 2v5. Mundo was taking 30% of Sona's HP per Q, and kept on her with his W, and she couldn't do anything nor could Sivir. Nor could their Master Yi!
To paint the picture:
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Aredethe
The 2/7/13 Morgana game (about 5 down)
I only had 11,388 damage received the entire game, but died 7 times. In other words, Sivir and Sona didn't waste ANY damage. If they wanted to kill me, they killed me. I never got hit by any other poke.
Mundo did over 5k more than me and died once, and soaked over twice the damage I took.
You might call this a Cassiopeia overall carry, but Mundo is the real reason we won. It's hard to show without wasting a lot of time trying to screen capture the game, but he controlled the entire flow of the game, which enabled Cass to do more of her job.
#Bottom line: The RIGHT tanks are very relevant right NOW. The challenge is: SUPPORT tanks generally build 2 HP items first and put off building Armor/Resist, so they don't feel like tanks. But Jungle Voli, Mundo, Cho Gath, Garen; those tanks are all doing fine. Ornn top can be downright oppressive if he's got a lead. Poppy is outright a game centerpiece (just not played that often because she's Poppy)
Tanks can be raid-bosses, as long as they don't deal insane amounts of damage in addition to being unkillable. I want tanks to play like the generic MMO class of the same name, where their sole purpose is to absorb a ton of damage while drawing enemy attention away from the squishy damage dealers using cc. As a trade-off, their own personal damage output is almost nothing. IMO many of the problems people have with tanks only seem to occur when tanks are given %HP damage. Think about all the problematic tanks over the years: Sejuani, Ornn, Shen, Maokai, Zac........they all have or have had %HP damage in their kit, pushing their damage up far higher than it should be for champions whose purpose isn't to deal damage.
