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Jax Cramer3 votes

Yes he needs nerfs to his laning phase.

Ïnsidious1 votes

He's pretty strong before the 1st back, but before he gets his IE and Runaans is a good time to fight him, and you will probably win

Sèx Craved Eve2 votes

Do people just never look at patch notes? Ever? You can find next patch in 2 seconds on google. Yes, he's being nerfed.

Penns1 votes

I always do, but just to press Ctrl-F, search "Fizz", be sad and close them again lul

WinTheWarOnPants1 votes

I've seen... pardon me if i don't think that a 2 second rank 1 stealth duration nerf and 20 more mana on his W is gonna be anywhere near enough for a champ as OP as twitch right now. Reksai was getting hit WAY harder than this when she had a 48% winrate lol

Ïnsidious1 votes

lol his E is getting damage nerfs across the board. It doesnt even reach the same late game values, it just is lower at every rank. The W nerf really hurts his early game, because he uses it at that point to zone out opponents in lane. The harass was good, but 20 more mana will really hurt pre-6

WinTheWarOnPants2 votes

"Contaminate (E) damage reverted to 20/35/50/65/80 from 10/25/40/55/70"

Ïnsidious1 votes

Ok, I misread the notes then. Either way, the mana cost will probably be enough honestly. Without the easy access to area denial that is provided by venom cask, it will be much harder to win lane.

WinTheWarOnPants1 votes

I posted a link to his champ.gg page... you seriously think a 20 mana increase is going to be enough to balance a 57% winrate... like really?

Ïnsidious1 votes

Absolutely. He tends to snowball really hard as soon as he gets a lead. He can get a lead easily by zoning opponents out of cs, and by keeping harass up on the opposing laners. Making it harder for him to harass his opponents will probably bring down his winrate.

Then again, you could probably just remove all of his skills and only leave him his ultimate, and he would skill be able t ass-blast the entire enemy team (if they group wrong) as soon as he got runaan's and IE with his ulti

Astôlfo1 votes

Taking 30 seconds to google PBE changes would help.

WinTheWarOnPants1 votes

I've seen. Don't think they are gonna be anywhere close to enough though, and i don't want to wait for the next patch. 57% winrate is plenty OP for a hotfix i think.

Jad1 votes

The problem with Twitch right now is how much stronger his laning phase is. His Q now lasts longer and instantly casts (if no one is in range), giving him an AS buff whenever needed. His W also lingers now giving him wave clear and a good trading/teamfight tool. These two factors combined make his laning way stronger than before.

Twitch is a hypercarry, and just like any hypercarry he needs a weaker early game to balance out his strong late game.

I think Riot is just waiting to see what these nerfs do to him. The twenty extra mana to cast W is a lot, you have to play smarter in lane to conserve mana now.

WinTheWarOnPants1 votes

yeah his Winrate by game legth has completely flipped, it use to look like 50-55% then it went to 54ish-55ish and now its freaking 60-55% WTF?!

Jad1 votes

Twitch can snowball pretty hard which is where the winrate is coming from. It's basically getting him to his late game state faster.

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