Title. On the PBE he could (and still can!) Flash while winding up Q. All I'm saying is Flash+Q would definitely help him in general, surprising people and helping close the gap for the kill. As well it just seems unfair that Xerath, Vi, and others can Flash+Q but Darius can't.
Edit: Looks like it's getting fixed, thanks Riot!
RiotStatikk28 votesThis is being fixed in the next patch.
yay nibbers3 votesAwesome! Thanks for the heads up!
Shénzhì4 votesThis news makes me sad. :(
Crazykamikazi2 votesPlease can you also notice that Woad King Darius skin's W animation is bugged atm?
Steps to reproduce: 1- Autoattack something 2- Use W just after the autottack in quick succesion
If you let you autottack animation end then W animation is displayed correctly but being an auto reset it is a big deal.
edit: This post reported the bug on video
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/KmgrUsZ5-woad-king-darius-auto-reset
jAimtJwTe01 votesThis is being fixed in the next patch.
My hero <3 
Penta Penguin1 votesWhich patch will you fix the missing Statikk Shyvana skin, noob?
Ungrateful Thug1 votesThis is being fixed in the next patch.
Thank you, guys. That's one of my main complaints with his Q. Good to see it's getting fixed.
Frius1 votesstatikk ,plz ,checkout the garen Q bug also ,he cant attack nexus while Q is on ,simply stops attacking while q is active ,neither basic attacks neither Q strike doesnt attack nexu only
RiotMeddler4 votesAlso fixed in the next patch.
RiotMeddler17 votesThat's odd, the behavior on the PBE is how that's intended to function. Will follow up on that, see if we can track down why the difference in behavior.
yay nibbers2 votesGood to hear! I thought it was strange that the functionality was so different, but nobody playing seemed to have noticed or at least I didn't see anyone talking about it.
Penns4 votesDarius is already broken he aint need more buffs lel.
MetalGearTeemu3 votesnot sure why this man's being downvoted. Darius enjoys better strength in lane from lvl 1 then Garen, and is has better damage and teamfight survivability late due to decimates balls out healing.
yay nibbers3 votesThey're being downvoted because their comment isn't constructive.
Darius also enjoys being slow as balls and having a highly telegraphed Decimate. Except he doesn't enjoy it at all. Darius's damage doesn't mean anything when he can't get into the fight to do it.
Penns1 votesGangplank enojoys being slow as balls and having a highly telegraphed E. Except he doesnt enjoy it at all. Yet he gets nerfed, wheres your point? If Darius isnt overpowered he is at least balanced but it doesnt look like balanced is enough to be worth anything nowadays. Everything needs to be broken or else it wont be played whatsoever. If you want 4/4 reworks be broken broken as shit, complain and beg bor more buffs.
yay nibbers1 votesExcept Gangplank has more base movespeed, a movespeed boost on his passive and his barrels, and a ranged attack in his Q. As well, his barrels can be played with so you can surprise people. He gets nerfed because he was doing absurd damage thanks to the 60% armor ignore. It's a fact that Darius isn't doing well because he can't keep up with anyone and his Q is so incredibly slow to swing. Not to mention his slow attackspeed makes it hard to get his passive fully stacked unless they're standing still for him. The only way you can do anything with him is by stealing kills with your ult to get your Blood Rage to activate and hope you can get on someone.
Penns1 votesBase movespeed doesnt matter, his Q barely does anything as long as it doesnt crit. This champ is 100% reliant on his barrels. A skill that has high aoe damage and CC = high reward, but pretty much every non- retarded ranged champ can aa it before GP does, you will be faster than his Q every time. If youre not stupid (which most people in this community are just judging of him doing so "well") he cant even chain them because either you stay away if he placed one near you or you just destroy it. In lane theyre easily destroyed too.
Thats how its meant to be. Thats the point of the whole "juggernaut" thing. Be incredibly strong if someone fights them, but have no mobility. You know what his passive does? Im pretty sure its the only dot that does physical damage in the game. And you know what gives movespeed everytime you deal physical damage? Yeah. Also, he has 2 90% slows and a mini aoe hook. Do you remember what happened with release Gnar? I felt like I was the only person on the planet not calling him trash and unplayable. All these retarded League Youtubers just made him look bad too. Actually, they all just sucked with him while I got some freelo, Riot still buffed him tho because everyone was complaining. And you know what happened next? He became the best top laner in the game for so long, even tho the buffs werent even that hard, people just learned how to play him instead of fail once and call him trash. Reminds me of Darius tbh, but ok, keep going.
yay nibbers1 votesBase movespeed does matter, it contributes to a champion being slower than others. Gangplank being faster in this case, though upon inspection Darius's isn't actually that low relatively speaking. Gangplank's Q is still basically a ranged melee attack, that's something other melee champs don't have. Here's the thing with Gangplank barrels though, you can game them so people can't shoot them before you can set them off. With practice, you can chain them from well out of someone's range and blow them up with little time to react. Not to mention the general utility of the barrels, seeing as they speed you up considerably when detonated and reset your passive. Gangplank has methods of getting his damage at you and getting around, and is generally an entirely different beast. You can hardly compare the two champions, though that's fine because they're supposed to fill different niches.
The whole point of the juggernaut thing is all well and good, except when you can't get in to do any damage at all you're bloody useless. His slows are only good if you can get them off. As well there's two other champs that have phsyical damage DoTs, though only one of them would really make use of Cleaver. And 20 movespeed is a far cry from what he got for speed from his old passive, which they took out.
Yes I do remember Gnar, they buffed him because he was weak. Riot buffs and nerfs things when they are too weak/strong. They don't just do whatever the community complains about (haven't seen any nerfs for Riven/Vayne/Irelia/whoever the Boards flavor of the month complaint is yet), they balance champs based on how strong/weak they currently are in higher level play. None of that matters though, because all I asked for in this thread is for consistent Flash mechanics on Darius's part. Why shouldn't I be able to use my one 5 minute cooldown gapcloser to gapclose during Q when every other champion with similar functioning abilities can do the same? Not to mention the fact that Darius can currently and has been able to do it on the PBE since they introduced the delay in the juggernaut update.
Penns1 votesStill, GP is like Azir, high reward for high risk. Imo Riot should first try to fix high reward- barely no risk champs (aka Vayne, Irelia,...) Idk, whenever I play against GP I just get 10 gold every barrel he puts down, maybe hes broken in "pro" play, I dont watch lcs.
Thats still the point of the juggernaut update. If you cant engage, pick him into a comp that wants to engage? Same as Yorick was played, let your enemies engage and smack them. Yeah, CC is only good if you can get it off, thats a pretty good argument kek.
Thats not true. He was nowhere near weak and all he got was some qol changes (like Q travel speed, width, some bug fixes and then they reduced some base damages to give him minimal better AD scaling (0.05% on both Qs), nothing big at all) until he became top tier. The only reason they buffed a already overloaded champ was the giant shit storm about his win rate and other stuff. And the only reason for that was because people refused to learn him.
Im not complaining about what you asked for tho. Im pretty sure Darius is intended to be able to flash while Qing, thats prolly just a bug lol. Im complaining about Darius having such a toxic kit and I dont wanna see that overbuffed. 15% missing HP healing for every enemy hit with Q on a 3 second cooldown (only the blade and 30% max, I know) and those 50- 200 free AD upon dunking someone is quite cancer on its own. Just think of his ult like Fioras. You ult some low hp dude at the beginning of a fight and proceed to win.
yay nibbers1 votesI haven't really watched LCS recently either, but I know the best Gangplanks will get their barrels in your face if they want to.
As far as everything else I don't think we're getting anywhere. I agree though, picking Darius into the right comp is definitely the right way to do it, always kinda was. My only gripe is the Q changes make it harder to do the things he could previously, in lane and in team fights. I've actually taken him to the jungle more since it's easier to Q someone when you're coming at them from behind for a gank. I definitely agree on the heal though, that shit is ridiculous. It's nice for Darius, and I can definitely attest to that, but it's weird and rather annoying for anyone else.
Penns1 votesAnd, you still want Darius buffed even more or is he finally enough broken for people to play him? lol
Troll for Trump3 votesOh wow, cuz level one Strength is broken
He's better lategame, but his early laning isn't strong at all
Dunkrius2g1 votesHis comment is not useful to this discussion. If he wants, he can make a different discussion and talk about how OP Darius is. That is a reason Y i would downvote him.
Penns2 votesUpvoted
Is really useful to this "discussion" bro ;D Idc about downvotes anyway, its League boards lol.
Dunkrius2g3 votesUpvoted.
Captain zur See1 votesNow that you are at it, I would like to ask something about Darius q as well:
Since i played the matchup against darius in Top lane with Irelia, i noticed that you can't interrupt his "Q" with your stun (yes my % life was lower). So what I'm interested in is: Are those 0.75 seconds on his "Q" acutally a delay, or a cast-time (which should mean you can interrupt him while casting).
Got really frustrated in that matchup, since it felt unrewarding to dash onto him and cast e just to get slaped by his axe cause there is no real counterplay, expect running away from his "Q".
So i would like to know: Is it intended that you can't interrupt darius q with hard cc?
Novalax1 votesA similar thing happened in my game too. I managed to pull a galio after his ult went off.
yay nibbers1 votesHis Q is a delay, so no you wouldn't be able to interrupt it. Really all you can do is wait for him to Q and then jump on him, but if you're on top of him and he uses his Q the best thing to do is stay on top of him and not get hit by the blade.
