Who is the best leashing Champion?

IlynPayne·Jul 4, 2017·3 votes·1,459 views

I am a support main, and I have been thinking that there is no way to win any game in Silver unless your ADC is ~~leashed~~ peeled properly through any team fight. And since no one really cares about his team's ADCarry, I started playing champions that can ~~leash~~ peel as much as possible.

So I decided to play Tahm Kench more and more and found that the slow in his Q, and the devour with W is working pretty good, but sometimes it just is not enough. Is there any better champions or items that can help ~~leash~~ peel?

60 Comments

Warning ShotJul 4, 20179 votes

um i think the term you're looking for is peeling? leashing is doing damage to jungle monsters so the jungler has an easier time clearing.

Best peel - zyra, nami, braum, tahm, sion

good peel but hard to make work - leona, because you put yourself in danger when you go in with your e, and a lot of the time your adc will not be in range to follow up your e depending on your position, their position and the position of the person you e

IlynPayneJul 4, 20172 votes

Exactly! I will change that in a second.

And for Leona, I played her so much and I can tell that in low elo it is hard to depend on her, but rather your team, and your adc.

As for the peel list, I agree with tahm, and braum, but never actually tried zyra, nami, nor sion. I will look into that as well as Maokai

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 4, 20173 votes

leona is more of an engager all in type of champ

as a person who mained leona (im a support main) you can play her as a peel /def support if you stop being argo ...

you dont use your combo and ult for engage you use your q to peel. your e to peel your ult to stop engages

its about the mindset and how /when you use abilities

zyra is great for poke/dps(if your team lacks ap ) /some cc and disengage (great vs dive comps/hard engages ) with her kit. tahm to me is best vs an assassin ... a zed, rengar, malz ult, syndra , viegar etc... you can save that carry with W and sustain burst... but not great other wise braum is a bit of hybrid he can protect/ anti engage but can be used offensively as well... nami is good , very squishy , if you miss your Q ur in trouble. and has sustain... aoe cc with ult. (think of her like sona ) sion has a high win rate as support but his Q is very telegraphed and you will take a lot of damage (i dont think its ideal )

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

Your comments really do help. I am having trouble managing my mindset in each champion. I can play aggro, defensive, protective, and pretty much everything. But I can't think of doing all that with one champion. My problem not seems to be with my small champion pool, but rather my mindset while playing them.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 4, 20171 votes

naut is still a good tank/cc peel engage support

a lil slower but has really good lock down

i mained him as a support too

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I do play him top lane and I can imagine the possibilities of his CC and peel. I just never thought of playing him as a support.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 4, 20173 votes

Maokai

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

Oh, never thought of that!!

This Is Your DadJul 4, 20173 votes

I still think Braum is number 1 at keeping your adc alive. There's simply no other kit designed quite like his.

DoktorKaiserJul 4, 20173 votes

Imo Braum and Alistar , many other tanks could also work. Also if you want something squishier then definitely Janna as the best peeler in the game.

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I do play Janna and I like her. But the problem is that her ult is just a momentary peel. However, her shields are solid with cdr runes and in game items. Alistar is in my peel list but I sometimes I do mess up with him.

I think Braum and Maokai will be my next options to try so far.

This Is Your DadJul 4, 20172 votes

I play brand support bot lane for the damage. No need to sweat the small stuff, if your adc is full health and the enemy adc and support are almost dead, he'll know what to do. Other than that, the number one savior of the universe would be my man Braum.

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I like your idea, "best defense is a good offense". But correct me if I am wrong, after the laning phase I don't see brand as a leashing champion, but rather a sort of a carry.

This Is Your DadJul 4, 20171 votes

I've just had more success with him not because I want to carry the game, but because my adc loses morale if we aren't winning the lane. If I can snowball him, even through assists, harass the enemy adc so he can't farm and even tilt the enemy that is playing a "real" support, I can usually secure a win. Of course if they manage to not tilt or feed I'm out of luck, but in my current elo that's not likely. Basically I play carry supports to prevent my adc from tilting and to tilt the enemy team, not to actually carry.

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I agree. I do suffer from a high damage supports, and I hate playing against them. Maybe you are right, I will look more into snowballing supports rather than tanky ones. I hope it solves the issue.

Thanks!

This Is Your DadJul 4, 20171 votes

Morgana, lux and brand are all good. Brand I prefer because his w is so easy to land in a lane with two people, and his ult is best when 2 champions are around. His full combo chunks people, and I build almost pure magic penetration instead of ap so I don't push the wave or steal farm. Most end games I have 55 magic penetration and 180 ap, but I still beat the crap out of the enemy team when they group, and my health is high with rylais and torment so I am beefy enough to be a distraction. I don't buy rabadon's or any full on ap. It's always hp and ap with magic pen as a priority.

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

So basically regular AP runes, but magic penetration and lots of health in game. Well that's a good idea!

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 4, 20172 votes

just keep in mind everything has a trade off... you wanna play lux /brand ok you wanna do damage ok... your team lacks a tank/peel a form of engage ... you now have to play the lane different... you are a poke lane... you are weak to dives/all ins due to squishy nature of champ and lack of hard cc

if you wanna be tank you cant poke and burst... but you can all in... and defend against the divers etc ...

you need to have a pool of champs for every situation and pick what is best for your team and what you are against.

not one champ is gonna do this... some are good jacks of all but not great at any...

zyra would be a good mix of zone/poke/cc and anti engage while having dps damage with out having to invest a lot into AP nami is a jack of all... cc, poke, sustain , aoe cc

so you need to figure out what champs you are good at and why and why you do well with them and why you do bad with them and fit your champ selection/pool based on the game you are in with the best fit for you and your team in that game

i legit can play Alistar Bard Braum Galio Janna Leona Lulu Malphite Maokai Morgana Nami Nautilus Nunu Sona Soraka TahmKench Taric Thresh Trundle Zyra at support

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

Yeah. I definitely agree with the fact that there must be a peeler in your team. And I had plenty of experience trying different supports, and lack peeling even though we have, for example, a top laner that can easily peel for the adc, but he rather dive in and try and make some plays, while our ADC is getting hard time staying alive with my weak peeling ability with that champion, which costs us the fight or maybe the game since a 'tank' cannot carry the game if the adc is dead early that fight.

rtbf221651412Jul 4, 20172 votes

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I agree. I do suffer from a high damage supports, and I hate playing against them. Maybe you are right, I will look more into snowballing supports rather than tanky ones. I hope it solves the issue.

Thanks!

I've had success with Ardent Stoneborn Pact Q Soraka.

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I have heard about the Ardent Cancer + Stonebork Pact, but never thought using it with soraka. Souldn't Windspeaker's Blessing be a better option though?

rtbf221651412Jul 4, 20172 votes

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I have heard about the Ardent Cancer + Stonebork Pact, but never thought using it with soraka. Souldn't Windspeaker's Blessing be a better option though?

There is a reason I use it over windspeakers. I'd check the build I just posted.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 4, 20172 votes

oh my bad i saw "leashing" and commented about jungle leashing

you mean peel/cc/protection

MAOKAI IS STILL GREAT

maokai with item 3401 item 3190 item 2045 item 3050 item 3800 item 3109 item 3143 item 3193

what ever tank items you and your team needs

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

Sorry for the confusion. As for Maokai, It just makes sense to play him as a protection type champion. He is tanky, and his ultimate, Q, E are just enough to keep enemy team from approaching your ADC.

Thanks for your suggestion!

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 4, 20171 votes

like i love the tree i play him nearly 85% of the time. top,jungle,sometimes mid, and support

i have over 650 games on him since season 5

if you have questions / runes/masteries builds/ match ups etc feel free to ask

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I am thinking of running cdr, mr, armor, and possibly health with him as a support. Does that sound good?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 4, 20171 votes

for my tanky front line supports i run

typically 0-12-18 taking stoneborn pack for runes i have a page that is +21 armor +216 hp @ lvl 18 +8 mr +9mr at lvl 18 you can get alot of cdr in game easily

alot of times in bot lane you are vs alot of mix damage due to majority of supports having ap damages

http://imgur.com/bnKdpi2

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

That's a good option as well, and I have a similar tanky type runes. I will definitely try Maokai in norms, and see how it goes.

Thanks!

Ahri a StarkJul 4, 20172 votes

Lulu

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I like lulu, but I prefer Janna over her.

IlynPayneJul 6, 20171 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

AlienPrimateJul 5, 20172 votes

I'm surprised no one has said Taric yet. You can peel with a stun that has a max range of 1875 (almost cait's ult at level 6). He can heal and shield them. He can body block skill shots because he is relatively tanky. He gives his ADC bonus armor; usually about 50 late game. He can make his ADC invincible for 2.5 seconds.

I think the biggest advantage that Taric has over every other ADC is that he can support from almost a full screen away while he has 100 hp. He can still use every ability he has from that range. If I almost die in a fight but the fight is still going, I don't have to leave. I can stay way in the back and support from the link on his W. This can be clearly seen after the fight at 21:30 in this video. I was almost dead but I was hanging back ready to support Twitch in case Jax wanted to jump on him. Again at 27:50, I link to Lee Sin, stand in the way of Jinx so she can't ult him, then I ult Lee sin and go a different way around in the jungle to get my ult on Viktor. At the end, Lee Sin had 4 hp left. He would have died but I was supporting him from a whole screen width away.

https://youtu.be/lg5xjOPOyaI

Also, there is a literal leash between Taric and his partner if that is what you are going for.

IlynPayneJul 6, 20171 votes

I know for a fact that Taric is a tanky beast. I hate playing against him, yet I never played with him. He will definitely be in my try list.

DarkDeamonDragonJul 5, 20172 votes

I've climbed from B3 to S4 this season playing mostly Leona. Her CC is awesome and as long as your ADC doesn't go melee form too much it'll be hard for any champ besides assassins to get to them. I usually pick up item 3401 and item 3190 as soon as I can for extra shields.

Also, remember that after laning phase you're better off supporting whoever is the strongest carry which is not necessarily the ADC. If you had a rough laning phase but your mid laner is ahead, leave your ADC to farm piled up waves to get gold and solo exp from them so they can catch up faster and peel for your mid laner.

IlynPayneJul 6, 20171 votes

Leona is my main so far. I enjoy playing her, but I do engage so much with her (which is basically my weakness) instead of balancing between engaging and peeling.

DarkDeamonDragonJul 6, 20171 votes

When i go for an engage in a teamfight it's usually with my E-Q combo, I wait to use my ult until I see at least 2 opponents clustered for the multi stun/slow or if someone got past me in a beeline to my carry. Usually the one aiming for my carry is not expecting my ult, and, in my experience, 9 out of 10 times the stun will land which gives my carry enough time to either get the kill or run to safety. Don't forget to use the actives on your items either. FotM's shield has a wide area of activation and Locket's shield is enormous. I can't tell you how many times a well placed shield has saved my teammates.

Engaging in laning phase I play a bit more passive against another tank support than I do against a squishy. I try to wait for my level 3 before doing an all in, and I wait for their CC to be on cooldown before I go in. That's because when you engage, if the other team is smart, they'll try to go right for your ADC and if you're CC'd you can't protect them. Squishy targets are way easier to engage when they come forward to poke because (at least in my elo) they'll overextend to do so. Keep an eye out for their jungler so they don't surprise you when you engage. Against another tank your best bet is to try to catch their ADC out of position. If it's a Blitz or Thresh you're up against keep yourself between them and your ADC if there aren't any minions to block the hook. If the tanks become a little too aggressive, one of their teammates is coming in for a gank and it's probably best for you to back off. If it looks like they're on a silver platter, it's too good to be true.

Hope this helps you. Good luck!

IlynPayneJul 6, 20171 votes

I usually don't complete FofM, but rather go for item 2303 . I do get Locket and Redemption as well. I might try FotM next time for more shield.

Thanks, that was helpful

rtbf221651412Jul 4, 20171 votes

So what exactly do you want?

Someone who can heal, be aggressive, tank somewhat, slow/snare, have a decent amount of ap, and proc ardent all at once?

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I do play all sort of supports.

Heal/shield like Soraka Janna Aggressive/tanky like Leona Blitzcrank Alistar Malphite Snowball like ' Lux ; not often' Bard Tanky/passive like TahmKench

I tried what I believe to be Aggressive/tanky champs, but they require to dive into the enemy team and make plays rather than leash for the adc, or at least I cannot manage to do both.

I also tried Heal/shield champs but they are squishy, and in low elo they tend to dive the squishiest rather than the adc which costs me: Locket active, Redemption active, ultimates, and shields on myself instead of using it somewhere else.

Snowballers are always good in laning phase, but I have trouble making difference later in the game.

So I am down to Tanky/passive champions which I have only Tahm in that category. I basically want to be passive, not die quickly and be able to help my carry deal as much damage as possible in a team fight.

rtbf221651412Jul 4, 20172 votes

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I do play all sort of supports.

Heal/shield like Aggressive/tanky like Snowball like '; not often' Tanky/passive like

I tried what I believe to be Aggressive/tanky champs, but they require to dive into the enemy team and make plays rather than leash for the adc, or at least I cannot manage to do both.

I also tried Heal/shield champs but they are squishy, and in low elo they tend to dive the squishiest rather than the adc which costs me: Locket active, Redemption active, ultimates, and shields on myself instead of using it somewhere else.

Snowballers are always good in laning phase, but I have trouble making difference later in the game.

So I am down to Tanky/passive champions which I have only Tahm in that category. I basically want to be passive, not die quickly and be able to help my carry deal as much damage as possible in a team fight.

I don't know if you are interested but:

So, as I posted before, Stonepact Soraka.

Ardent Censor Procs of Stoneborn Pact which was proced off Q.

You will need to build HP and AP, which is fine.

A sample build would look like this:

item 3092 (Aggressive. Procs off Q and E.) [AP] item 3504 (Adds more to the aggressive. Basically a kill lane now.) [AP] item 3083 (If you need heals really bad and plan on building other HP items, go with this. It helps you passively heal and also affects your stoneborn pact healing.) [HP and your second mana regeneration basically] item 3109 (Basically heals everytime your ADC hits a champion) [HP, protects adc, hp regen] item 2045 (Since relic shield is out of the question, you want this because of the HP.) [Wards, HP, reduced exhaust or whatever]

Other items: item 3174 (Also procs off stoneborn pact. This is completely situational and not meant to be built until mid-late game.) [Heals for even more if they haven't hit the target already. item 3102 (Anti-CC + AP +CDR) item 2138 item 2139 item 3151 (It's just funny to add more stuff to the Q. I wouldn't do this unless it's needed for whatever reason.) item 3190 (You are building HP so...) item 3165 (Anti-healing. Not a first choice and situational. Less than Liandries though.) item 3116 (Only if you want to make your E more successful at snaring. Gives AP and HP too. Slows do not stack.) item 3040 (If you have mana issues. I would sincerely avoid this though) item 3157 (Can help with armor. Gives AP. I would get if you use it's active. I don't use the active so I find it useless.)

Do whatever is needed for the boots except for the obvious item 3006

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

This is an intensive Soraka build, and I like it. I am assuming you get HP runes as well rather than AP support type?

rtbf221651412Jul 4, 20172 votes

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This is an intensive Soraka build, and I like it. I am assuming you get HP runes as well rather than AP support type?

I have two rune pages for her, and it was not intentional. It just worked that way after one of the patches. The one that works best is this one:

I have Scaling HP Seals. I have Scaling AP Glyphs Scaling AP Quints The marks will depend on what you build. I personally have scaling mana. I'm not going to say this is the best though. It helps with skill spamming though. (Zone/Peel/Procs)

I am not sure you actually need the scaling parts but it sure as hell helps later since you are focusing two stats.

For masteries, I usually go:

Resolve

Recovery: 5 Tough Skin: 1 Runic Armor or Veteran's Scars: 5 Perseverance or Insight: 1 Swiftness: 5 Stoneborn Pact : 1

Then you choose between:

Cunning

Wanderer: 5 Secret Stash: 1 Meditation: 5 (You will have mana problems unless you plan on getting mana regen through items) Bandit: 1

Ferocity

Sorcery: 5 Expose Weakness: 1 Vampirism: 5 (Helps with Q I believe. Could be wrong though) Battle Trance: 1

IlynPayneJul 4, 20171 votes

I appreciate you taking your time explaining runes, masteries, and in game build in detail. I will try everything, and will hopefully improve my Soraka build that I have been working on.

Thanks!

rtbf221651412Jul 4, 20171 votes

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I appreciate you taking your time explaining runes, masteries, and in game build in detail. I will try everything, and will hopefully improve my Soraka build that I have been working on.

Thanks!

Note that you want 1 point in Q first, then W, then E, then go Q & W back and forth.

KuroCaliberJul 5, 20171 votes

So... Bard?

IlynPayneJul 6, 20171 votes

I like Bard, but I hate using his ultimate in team fights because I don't really know who to ult and when. He is harder to play with late game. But other than that, his q and his late game AA is extremely helpful to keep your ADC safe, and deal tons of damage with only item 3504 and item 3092 .

So yeah, Bard is not the best option, but one of my preferred ones.

Sire HippingtonJul 5, 20171 votes

Braum, he not only has the needed tools to keep the adc save(lulu and jaina are just as good at that), he also has playmakeing potential and his passive animates your adc to AA the target(a common issue with low elo adc is that they somehow don't like useing AAs that much). This allows him to not only protect his 'gun' but he can also point it at the right targets with that passive. And nealry all tank-support items help at keeping a carry save.

The alternative is Brand. His early is so absurd that you can win the lane nearly 1vs2 and get your adc ahead, and in teamfights you can be so much of a threat that you either kill the opposing team while they try to kill your adc, or they focus you and ignore the adc.

IlynPayneJul 6, 20171 votes

I will definitely try Braum, yet not really sure about Brand.

I know for a fact that Brand is a meta support that can deal so much damage and scare assassins away, or gets focused and lets the adc do the job. But I mostly prefer fully tanky supports like Braum, Blitz, Tahm, and Leona.

Critmaster GarenJul 5, 20171 votes

Malphite with item 1029 and w start.

the little damage he takes from the camp goes to his shield, which regenerates on his way back to lane. his w active makes him deal a decent amount of damage for a couple seconds.

IlynPayneJul 6, 20171 votes

Smart enough, but I don't see how he can peel other than R to engage.