"New" Warding items punish Supports the most

Zac x Me··1 votes·803 views

Whenever you have a bad ADC who totally loses against the enemy bot lane, leaving you literally 1v2, you sometimes can't get the ward bonus upgrade of item 3098, item 3302 and item 3305. In worst case scenarios you'll finally be able to get the ward bonus at minute 17 to 20 which is ridiculously late.

With the old Sightstone, even though it was a crap item that took away one slot and nothing but a sign of slavery, you were at least always able to obtain it within the first 7 to 13 minutes about 90% of the time.

Now it's literally a gamble on how shit your ADC is if you even get to have some vision, as vision is still not a team effort.

Please rework that ward system.

If I can't touch the enemy bot to gain gold for item 3098's ward bonus, because I literally have no ADC, it's just plain stupid. If I can't execute minions with item 3302 for the ward bonus, because the enemy bot just dives me as they have no enemy ADC to fear, it's just plain stupid. If I can't collect stupid gold coins dropping randomly form minions with item 3305, because I can't even get near the minions, not even under turret, just because I don't have an ADC, it's just plain stupid.

Stop making these ward bonuses so damn ADC reliant, no other damn item in this game is Support reliant or reliant on any other role to be obtained.

Don't cripple Primary Support players just because your system gives them a troll or autofilled ADC.

There is no fun or challenge in having to defend a lane when you are crippled with your essential gold income item because of someone else but yourself.

On an otherwise even matchup you can't do anything if you are left 1v2 because your ADC is utterly bad.

4 Comments

DODGEORLOSE3 votes

I can't relate. I don't lose lane so I wouldn't know what it's like being behind as a support.

Zac x Me1 votes

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I can't relate. I don't lose lane so I wouldn't know what it's like being behind as a support.

It's not just about losing, that is something that does happen every now and then but doesn't throw you back and cripple you as hard when you are a Support.

It's about getting hard stomped because you are pretty much 1v2 against 2 good players while you are just barely able to stand your own ground, instead of being 2v2 where this problem doesn't happen.

And when you mainly play Primary Support, the 17 minute or 20 minute ward bonus is the most aggravating thing in this game. It cripples vision, as noone else ever bothers to help with that and on top of that you get flamed for not warding and your teammates just wander and die into unwarded areas to die and all you can answer to that is spam the "xxx gold needed for quest completion" message.

The only consistent thing is getting item 2057 instead of item 3364 at level 9 and placing 5 of them down for some temporary, easy to remove vision while you still are trying to complete your gold item quest.

I just find it ridiculous that an essential item and its active bonus are so reliant on a different player but the player who actually buys the item. Imagine not getting your core mid lane damage item or not getting your jungler item just because top lane does badly for example. No item + active/passive bonus in this game should be reliant on anything but yourself to get.

Otherwise it's just utterly crippling and frustrating.

SuperCosmicHobo2 votes

It is kinda clunky when it states that you must have X amount of gold completed to gain wards. Usual time I see the quest complete is around 15-20 min. Which is pretty late.

HommeGoujon1 votes

I don't think It's that bad. If you're under turret, you don't have time to ward anyway

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