Proposed LeBlanc Changes

Bronze0verBrains··2 votes·1,676 views

Today I am posting to propose some changes to LeBlanc that will focus on relieving some of her burst damage, by turning some of her damage into a form of DoT (damage over time). This is a big part of her change because it will make her counter play less reaction time based and will make her less frustrating to play against. I will also be looking to raise her survivability and make her play-style more thematic, with more decision making, and more rewarding for landing a full combo. I will do this by focusing on making her chain more central to her kit. Please read on for a more in-depth analysis on my proposed changes for each ability.

Mirror Image (passive): Mirror Image invisibility for LeBlance and Clone increased to 1.5 seconds from 1 second. LeBlanc and Her Clone gain 20% MoveSpeed for 3 seconds. Passive can now be buffed through Ethereal Chains (read on to learn more)

TL;DR This change is focused on giving LeBlanc more survivalability and decision making.

Sigil of Malice Q: Sigil of Malice will no longer mark the enemy champion and will no longer deal double the damage when another ability is used on targeted champion, Instead her Q will now instantly proc Ethereal Chains root if Ethereal Chains is applied to said enemy. Sigil of Malice's scaling has been buffed from 40% to 50%.

TL;DR Made Sigil of Malice less bursty because it's a low skill targetable ability.

Distortion W: Distortion damage reduced to 65/95/125/155/185 (+60% AP) from 85 / 125 / 165 / 205 / 245 (+ 60% AP) Distortion now does 125% the damage to minions.

TL;DR Basically reduces distortion damage by 25% to champions but doesn't take away her source of wave clear.

Ethereal Chains E: LeBlanc flings illusory chains in a line, dealing magic damage to the first enemy they hit and tethering herself to them for 2 (up from 1.5) seconds, slowing her target by 20% (reduced from 25%) while the tether persists. Missile speed reduced from 1750 to 1450 Ethereal Chain initial damage stays the same (40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 (+ 50% AP))

If the target does not break the tether by moving out of range, they are rooted for 1 (down from 1.5) second and additional magic damage is dealt (2.5x the current amount) (ex: 100/165/225/285/350 (+50% AP))

Landing Ethereal Chains root on a target grants a buff for the next 10 seconds: If LeBlanc's passive (Mirror Image) goes off within the next 10 seconds LeBlanc and her Clone gain 10/20/30 Armor and Magic Resistance for 3 seconds (scales with Ultimate level) LeBlanc now has the ability to interact with her Clone causing her to absorb it granting her X Amount of Flat Health (ex:500)

TL;DR Made Ethereal Chains the central part of her burst, rewarding better players. This still keeps her pick potential high, but allows tanks and minions to block for squishies.

Mimic R: LeBlanc casts a mimicked version of her most recently used basic ability, applying the same effects and dealing modified magic DoT damage. All base damage is increased by 30% but now all damage from this ability is DoT damage that is applied over 5/4/3 seconds. (scales with Ultimate Level)

TL;DR Turned her ULT damage to DoT damage that applies over 5/4/3 seconds so less frustrating to play against

These proposed changes will still allow LeBlanc to excel at pick potential. They will raise her survivalability and reward better players. While making her skill floor higher, because squishies will have a couple extra seconds to try and counter the damage. The numbers might need a bit of an adjustment but these changes will make LeBlanc less frustrating to play against and more rewarding to play as.

Please feel free to give me feedback.

EDIT: She will have a higher mana pool, and mana regen for a better laning phase.

EDIT 2: You could also give LeBlanc the ability to buy a nerfed version of trickster's glass (black market brawlers item). This would give LeBlanc more of a unique playstyle from her female AP assassin's with dashes counterparts (katarina, akali, diana)

31 Comments

DJx Phenakism5 votes

I have a skin for LeBlanc so she is balanced.

LordDarkshayde4 votes

She is an AP/Assassin so of course she is meant to do burst damage. Your proposed changes are only because you don't like playing against her at all. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh by saying this but you just need to "git gud". LeBlanc was an issue when she had a silence that gave her almost 0 counterplay, but you are complaining about having to have a decent reaction time to fight her and that is just a matter of your skill vs. the LB's skill.

Bronze0verBrains3 votes

I went to the convience store and they're all out "gud" so unforunately I can't go out and git gud.

Yeah, you're right. It is a matter of my skill vs the LB's skill. They have to press 3 buttons I have to react in under 0.5 seconds. Its fair. /s I play ADC, so technically it's not really up to my skill to survive, it's more based around my teams reaction time to peel, heal, shield, etc.

Michael Sykes2 votes

so you don't want Zed, Diana, Talon, Rengar, Kha'zix, Fizz and those others I forget to mention?

They are actually the counterplay to adc's...

Bronze0verBrains2 votes

If I look at death recap, I doubt I'd see a sub 0.5 kill from any of these assassins. Except Rengar, who's most likely getting reworked in the assassin update.

Michael Sykes3 votes

so someone is randomly downvoting here lol

So I promise you that Diana, Talon and Fizz can also do that in less in a second. And it is necessary. Why? Because adc's can heal themselves very fast during the lategame if they are not killed fast enough. Especially mobile adc's or guys like Draven have very good options to prevent themselves from being assassinated if played well.

Bronze0verBrains2 votes

Morellonomicon and Ignite aren't good enough for them? Wow...

Michael Sykes2 votes

actually not. Ignite is not up often enough, and a good adc is in the backline when fighting. It is all about positioning, and the dps of and adc is way stronger than the dps of an assassin. If you don't believe, watch how they play in the lcs. It helps to understand the general countermechanics

Grathaw4 votes

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Hahahahyena1 votes

balanced yes, highly predictable too

zlumpy3 votes

When that position is under a tower and she flash bursts you with 0 items and then recalls back to her initial position...yeah thats fun game play right there >.>

LordDarkshayde3 votes

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When that position is under a tower and she flash bursts you with 0 items and then recalls back to her initial position...yeah thats fun game play right there >.>

If she is bursting you under a tower with 0 items you have done two things wrong already.

  1. You have allowed her to poke you down with a combo or two instead of sitting back and farming in lane like you should be from the start.

  2. You have overstayed your lane with low health and invited her to get a free kill because you are too dumb to recall when you should.

zlumpy1 votes

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If she is bursting you under a tower with 0 items you have done two things wrong already.

  1. You have allowed her to poke you down with a combo or two instead of sitting back and farming in lane like you should be from the start.

  2. You have overstayed your lane with low health and invited her to get a free kill because you are too dumb to recall when you should.

Me vel koz at lvl 5 80%hp under tower her lvl 5 with boots 2 pots and 1 magic 435 g book. She flashes in does full combo =me dead. Oh and she was at around 30% hp when she did this. No ignite was used as far as I could tell. So if i literally have to be at 100% or recall at all times than thats gonna be one lame game.

Michael Sykes1 votes

she has to be lvl 6 to do that if you really were on 80% hp

zlumpy1 votes

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she has to be lvl 6 to do that if you really were on 80% hp

Maybe she hit 6 right as she did it but before that she was 5.

Michael Sykes1 votes

just a small tip: Be cautios when you know your enemy gets lvl 6. In the most cases this is a heavy powerspike :)

Catastrop1 votes

How is this even possible, you're a Vel'Koz, clear the wave and watch her suffer. Not only that, but she has the biggest telepgraph possibly for your E, land that and it's GG LB.

zlumpy2 votes

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How is this even possible, you're a Vel'Koz, clear the wave and watch her suffer. Not only that, but she has the biggest telepgraph possibly for your E, land that and it's GG LB.

I was having issues with her ravenborn (i think thats it) skin. It wasnt showing the jump indicators on my screen. Plus the enemy team jungle was camping mid a lot so I couldn't really push it.

Catastrop1 votes

Really, I thought we were past these kinds of things. It seems like it's always the skins with teals that have this problem(coughUnderworldTFcough). You should probably create a bug report on this, to bring some attention to it.

zlumpy1 votes

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Really, I thought we were past these kinds of things. It seems like it's always the skins with teals that have this problem(coughUnderworldTFcough). You should probably create a bug report on this, to bring some attention to it.

Yeah I was waiting for that knockup but it felt like she would just reappear next to me with no warning outside of the audio que. It happened about 75%ish of the time during the match.

Catastrop3 votes

You know LeBlanc's an assassin right?

Bronze0verBrains2 votes

and making her have more damage, but that is harder to hit, that's DoT is bad how? She still has the potential to pick like an assassin, it's just going to have counter-play now because damage from her ult will be a DoT. It always won't reward players that never used a skill shot in their lives.

Michael Sykes1 votes

you don't understand how an assassin works

Bronze0verBrains3 votes

So an assassin in your eyes is a character with zero counter-play that is has an extremely low skill floor. Alright, didn't realize that Riot Games changes assassins to be boring to play and frustrating to play against.

I thought assassins just had high damage and the ability to dive backline, which LeBlanc would still have if these changes were made, but I guess I was totally confused about what really qualified an assassin as an assassin.

Michael Sykes1 votes

"Assassins specialize in infiltrating enemy lines with their unrivaled mobility to quickly dispatch high-priority targets. Due to their mostly melee nature, Assassins must put them themselves into dangerous positions in order to execute their targets. Luckily, they often have defensive tricks up their sleeves that, if used cleverly, allow them to effectively avoid incoming damage."

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/dev-blog-classes-subclasses

is that enough to prove?

Bronze0verBrains1 votes

So you just put a quote that backs up what I said, high damage and the ability to dive backline, the changes I proposed would also give her more defensive tricks. So I guess I should say; thanks for finding a quote to back-up what I said. LeBlanc's current clever trick is spamming W and R. My changes actually make the passive more interesting and give her the ability to buy a nerfed tricksters glass (similiar to viktors ability to buy a unique item)

I know it sucks when people think your main champion needs adjustments so people don't easily face-roll every game with her, but it's alright, I expected a couple LB mains to try and defend her current state.

Michael Sykes2 votes

You can't read?

"infiltrating enemy lines with their unrivaled mobility to quickly dispatch"

"quickly" --> burst --> no DoT

You don't know that LeBlanc is very weak in the current meta? Champions like Vladimir, Swain, Viktor and Azir are way stronger. And you complain about her? Please try champs in a ranked game, where everyone tryhards and tell me how easy it is. I could say "I hate tanks, because I can't kill them". Do I want them to be nerfed? No!

There is a very simple scheme for the balancing: ADC --> is countered by Assassins --> are countered by tanks --> Are countered by adc's (due to their high sustained damage). If you can't realize that, there is no way how you can have a good idea for such a complex game...

PS.: And actually many guys that commented here do share my opinion. Your ideas may be interesting, but not for an Assassin.

Catastrop2 votes

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It always won't reward players that never used a skill shot in their lives.

Is this all that this is about? So what if some players don't use skillshots, it's fact that some players are just bad at mechanics, doesn't mean they're trash tier for relying on champions that mitigate that weakness. Also LB does have counter play, she literally gets into your face at all times, there is no stealth or invuln frames, and the brief times that there are, it usually fails unless the LB actually has good micro. In that case, good for them, they outplayed you. Not to mention the ridiculous telepgraph on her return pad and the fact that she's essentially made out of paper...like assassins are meant to be(looking at you Ekko).

Hahahahyena1 votes

"leblanc goes into your face" and with that is her greatest weakness, she needs to get in your face to do any significant damage and thus arise counters such as Morgana (shes my fav counter to any mage assassin) Diana Galio Gragas Chogath Karma Lulu Lux Ryze , hell ive even seen Soraka used against me in the midlane (at least 2 times actually) use her bad positioning ability against her, make her not want to use her w anymore

BloodyTompon3 votes

Dots on an assassin is counter intuitive. Making her tanker is not the best idea either, you're subverting her weakness of squishiness.

FiddlesOnTheRoof2 votes

Appreciate the effort that went into this.. You have some interesting ideas. But the fact is, LB is in a very healthy place. She's horrible in the hands of an unskilled player, and lethal to an uncoordinated team in the hands of a veteran. Assassins are countered by items more than any other class in the game. I enjoyed your ideas though, and think you might be pretty good at new champion concepts. Post a Warwick rework thread. Maybe one for Galio. You have interesting ideas.

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