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"Lux is too safe"

KaelTheGreat··3 votes·2,482 views

I'm still confused as to why Riot nerfed Lux, stating that "Lux is too safe," when champions like Zed, LB, Ziggs, and Xerath all exist. Is it because Lux's Q, E and W are all instant casting global abilities? Or is it because she has to stop moving to cast them..? OH I KNOW! It's her 15 jumps/dashes that make her so safe!

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jjookkeerr3 votes

poor lux

MercuryCannons2 votes

Why can't a champion without escapes be overly safe?

Xerath for example can farm/poke effectively for the entirety of lane phase without every leaving his turret. ( i know you mentioned him in your list but he's very similar to lux)

Now i have been out of the game for a while so i don't know what nerfs you're talking about but during Season 2 lux was a huge problem. If you're talking about when Lux was nerfed ages ago those nerfs were very needed.

You mentioning champions that weren't in the game at that time and champions that were completely unviable at the time doesn't unjustify the nerfs.

KaelTheGreat1 votes

I believe it was at the end of season 4, and Xerath is similar to Lux, but he has way more range with lower cooldowns and just overall more damage wave clear and poke than Lux.

The justification that Riot gave for how safe Xerath was is that "Xerath's passive forces him to get close and auto people for mana." That's complete bullshit. Lux's passive is similar to Xerath's in that she's inclined to get close and auto, but the difference is that Lux's damage is mostly from her passive and autoing, and it applies to EVERYTHING she hits, so she's inclined to get close and auto 500 times more than Xerath is. ALSO, Xerath doesn't have mana issues as is, so he doesn't ever need to auto. Not to mention he can insta cast Q without any drawback. (Most champs like Vi Q and Varus Q have increased damage AND range the longer you charge up the spell. Xerath's does full damage without any charge. They even changed Janna's R so that people would hold it longer. There's absolutely no need to hold down Xerath Q unless you want to hit someone under their tower without crossing the center of the lane, as if that wasn't extremely safe.)

Edge of Daybreak2 votes

How does those champions existing not mean that lux nerfs were unjustified? She is safe during the laning phase and can actually go through the entire laning phase without risk unless you have a mobility spell because you most likely cant out poke her and even if you do she has a shield. Her ult having a super low CD was fun for lux players but having that kind of damage from 3300 range wasnt fun for most other people. She doesn't have a single skill that is less than 1000 range. At the time lux was strong and she got nerfed for it.

KaelTheGreat1 votes

What I am saying is that even if Lux's nerf was justified, (I dont think it is, but that's a separate matter here) Riot should nerf those listed champions ALSO, for being more safe than Lux is. I also said in another comment that her R cd nerf wasn't an issue to me, it was riot claiming that Lux was too safe without ever touching champions like Xerath and Ziggs who have all the benefits of Lux without the negatives.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

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What I am saying is that even if Lux's nerf was justified, (I dont think it is, but that's a separate matter here) Riot should nerf those listed champions ALSO, for being more safe than Lux is. I also said in another comment that her R cd nerf wasn't an issue to me, it was riot claiming that Lux was too safe without ever touching champions like Xerath and Ziggs who have all the benefits of Lux without the negatives.

Riot has nerfed each of those champions way harder than Lux got nerfed. Hell Lux even got a passive buff. You are trying to compare recent things to a meta that was here 3 seasons ago.

Xerath lost his free % magic pen and his free armor. They also made his ult easier to dodge and his stun has a terrible duration at close range. That's huge compared to a 10 second cd increase. He is also only slightly safer than lux it's not a huge difference to make up for how hard he got hit for it.

Ziggs received damage nerfs and his ult CD got increased to 2 minutes at all ranks lux gets 2 ults before ziggs gets a 2nd one at 40% cdr.

Leblanc and Zed have been nerfed many times as well.

Some fact checking would help you here.

KaelTheGreat1 votes

I would have included Ahri and Kass, but pre 6 they aren't nearly as safe as the above champions listed.

Akeydel1 votes

When was this? Lux hasn't received any changes (besides an ult bugfix) in at least 6 months. If anything she's been indirectly buffed with the addition of item 3285.

KaelTheGreat1 votes

Her base move speed was decreased and her R cooldown was increased. The R cd change isn't as much as problem as Riot's ignorance in the matter. Lux as a mid laner is nowhere near as safe as most champions. ALSO, I don't know why you're mentioning damage as an excuse for her nerf because Luden's Echo buffed EVERY AP mid laner, not just Lux, so it's not even a buff for her. Also, I'm talking about how safe a champion is, as I said in my original post.

The issue is that Riot claims Lux is too safe and made her "less safe" but leaves champions like LB and Xerath just as safe as ever, when they have the same benefits that Lux does, without any of the draw backs.

I want either every safe champ to be less safe, or for Lux to be more safe.

Akeydel1 votes

What patch did those changes happen in?

Akeydel1 votes

WAIT you're complaining about the changes in patch 3.5 **THIRTEEN MONTHS ** ago. Back then, Ziggs, Xerath, and Leblanc weren't problems. Leblanc didnt even have over a 10% pick/ban rate until the EU Challenger Series later that year.

Since the nerfs, Lux has been floating around a 50% win rate. If you're going to make a qq thread about Leblanc, at least be transparent about it, and don't complain about something that happened over a year ago.

Rootworth1 votes

They aren't global abilites. You can launch your q,w,e,r where ever on the map from where ever you stand.

Fasmodey1 votes

That's why Lux still has the least taken damage title. Really, Lux is so hard to kill, even assassins have hard times to kill her. If you're trying to jump her, you will get slowed, if you jumped her you will get snared, if you're near to kill him, her W will save her, even her W doesn't going to save her, she will use Zhonya or flash.

Different champions with different kits. Also, you shouldn't complain about season 3 nerfs. Really, do you really think she was balanced in her time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwKwEOblOA

Lost In Time1 votes

Because Lux got nerfed before the likes of Zed existed.

Her laning is Caitlyn tier and 40% CDR Lux is stupidly safe while providing an asston of utility and damage

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