veigar's stun

Lucenara·Nov 6, 2014·1 votes·1,238 views

veigar's stun is instant and every champ cant seem to find a counterplay aside from praying that he's moving the right way inside or outside the ring... even then, it's still very hard to do it against an experienced veigar player. is there any way for veigar's stun to have a counterplay aside from, you know, tenacity and quicksilver sash? like maybe have a visual delay like thresh's ult or a big wind up coz seriously, there's almost no counterplay to a well played veigar in dueling post 6 and beyond

12 Comments

Too TonNov 6, 20144 votes

He's famous for blowing up one target then that's about it. In a teamfight he doesn't have much aoe (w shouldn't hit more than one)

MarthianNov 6, 20142 votes

Veigar needs a rework period.

His E as you said has serious issues. His ult also has issues in that it deletes someone for free, no counterplay at all.

rdiddy1551Nov 6, 20141 votes

Yeah make it a giant magical blob of doom with a healthbar (HP is how much damage it does) that moves at a medium speed towards you while you run for your life or try to break it or weaken it with attacks before it hits you! I just made that up on the spot. I honestly don't have any ideas on how to rework him. :-P

Drunk RummateNov 6, 20142 votes

he's countered by items. he has a strong midgame powerspike with his DFG but once you can afford a zhonya's Veigar becomes pretty weak. mikaels, qss, or cleanse for the stun (or just stay out of range) and zhonyas his ultimate. then he's literally useless for the remainder of the fight.

Lord DusteonNov 6, 20141 votes

The problem is, Veigar literally relies on that stun to do anything in game, due to his extremely short range and delay on W. Currently, his kit is built around the stun, meaning you'd need to buff him a lot to make up for this.

xDingwithsaladNov 6, 20141 votes

He doesn't LITERALLY rely on that stun to do anything.

rdiddy1551Nov 6, 20141 votes

His stun is his team fight. If a Viegar places a stun well enough he doesn't even have to attack anyone, its a full team CC and he can just watch the slaughter. It needs some form of counter. For instance what if you edit the stun so that movement triggers it? If you stand still you wont be stunned. That would keep the stun the same in all aspects except Viegars can't ALWAYS get a insta stun by placing the edge directly on your head. That would allow for at least some small ammount of counterplay.

NhifuNov 6, 20141 votes

athenes helps alot since it gives mr

wave clear is good against veigar, since he doesnt want his lane shoved

you can also outroam a veigar, never once have i seen a veigar hit the enemy tower lol

banshees or ga is a good buy

btw, stop dueling, LoL isn't all about 1v1ing

MarthianNov 6, 20141 votes

25 mr is not a lot, especially against Veigar.

LucenaraNov 6, 20141 votes

so in a sense just avoid him like a plague as 1n1 and just find him later in the game with your teammates? i just feel like it's just done once he catches you with no counterplay (if we dont count in items) is all

xDingwithsaladNov 6, 20141 votes

There is no counterplay to it, no.

MorthidNov 6, 20141 votes

What if... Instead of an instant stun you cut the CD down in half and make it similar to Viktors ground trap where it slows you and THEN stuns you only after you've been in it for a second. You'd trade some insta gib power for survivability. Having a low budget Amumu ult is a little OP when it comes to ganking, diving and zoning.