why ap junglers have fallen off

DaNinad·Feb 14, 2017·2 votes·382 views

First of all, ap items have less gold efficiency than ad jungle items. The warrior enchantment gives 60 ad and 10% cdr for the same amount of gold that the runic echoes enchantment costs, which gives 60 ap and 10% cdr. Shouldn't ap cost less, or ad cost more, or ap be raised. Also with the buff of lethality, it kinda gives a gigantic edge on ad junglers. Blue buff no longer gives 10% bonus ap, which really doesn't affect anyone till mid to late game(10% bonus ap), but there was no reason to remove it. The camps are really hard to clear for champs like fiddlesticks(krugs,raptors). So yeah. There's my rant about lethality and junglers and stuff.

8 Comments

Dark NephthysFeb 14, 20171 votes

I can agree with that, the AP junglers are doing pretty bad right now. Buffing runic echoes is probably the best way to buff them, but they would have to be careful not to over-buff it and have it being abused in the mid lane again. Maybe just increase the AP amount would be fair, like 80 AP considering that AP items always gave more then AD items and it's kind of sad when the AD jungle item gives the same amount of AD as the AP jungle item's AP.

Also Runic Echoes doesn't give 10% CDR, instead it gives 7% movement speed. Which in the end kind of feels like the movement speed of Runic and the CDR from Warriors should be switched but I guess that might just be imo.

EndlessSorcererFeb 14, 20171 votes

the runic echoes enchantment costs, which gives 60 ap and 10% cdr.

Runic Echoes doesn't have CDR. It provides:

60 AP
7% Movement Speed
Echo Passive
Bonus Damage (250% damage to large monsters)
Restores missing mana

DaNinadFeb 14, 20171 votes

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Runic Echoes doesn't have CDR. It provides:

60 AP

7% Movement Speed

Echo Passive

Bonus Damage (250% damage to large monsters)

Restores missing mana

my bad im an idiot, but still the 60% ad and 10% cdr and the passives are way better

EndlessSorcererFeb 14, 20171 votes

With the exception of "Echo", Runic Echoes and Warrior have the exact same passives.