@RiotRepoirtor any plans for Kindred/Ivern in the big bot lane nerf next patch?

GodlyBane··1 votes·200 views

since bot is getting nerfed, supports jg's may be forgot about and adc junglers may be forgot about (btw dont touch twitch in a positive way, please)

now im not sure if any of you play kindred or ivern but late s7, i would main kindred, always do well, yet have such a low win rate on her.

and with ivern it feels impossible to do anything with how complicated his kit is, just have some buffs or changes come to these champions (positive ones plz)

i have some ideas of where these buffs can go, obviously im not saying "THESE HAVE TO BE THE BUFFS OR I WILL HAVE A TANDRUM" no, just any buffs would honestly do for these 2 junglers, i just thought up some ideas that can help them a bit

Kindred:

Passive: NEW; 1 Mark = 1% extra crit dmg (or 0.5% extra crit dmg if 1% is too much)

W: NEW; Passive: after walking (only walking so she doesnt become busted, but maybe auto attacking too...) for 100 charges, an auto gives a MS boost 5%/10%/15%/20% (lvl 1, lvl6, lvl11, lvl16) and 3/6/9/12/15/18/21/24/27/30/33/36/39/42/45/48/52 hp (lvls 1 - 18)

Ivern:

Passive: Generates 2 seconds quicker on medium/large monsters (red buff, gromp, etc)

E: NEW; Passive: when damaged or when a champion shielded by this ability gets damaged, they gain 5% [FLAT] dmg reduction for 2/4/6 seconds (better for 1v1 and team fights)

thats kinda my idea for it, like i said Riot, you dont have to use these, just any buff would do to help them, instead of leaving them in the dust like skarner once was, ok, cya! C:

P.S:

if you dont like my ideas, or feel they can be changed, put a comment on it and be constructive, instead of just downvoting, thanks!

1 Comments

SirLapse1 votes

Here's the issue: you're picking a non-assassin AD squishy champion with lower than average mobility. It's a problem shared by Marksman junglers in general, and Twitch getting around it with stealth cheese does not suddenly make him a proper choice for jungling, if anything it makes him more like Shaco where he works more based on if the enemy has no idea what is about to happen to them.

Graves was hugely viable because he could burst and farm up a storm while still keeping insane tanky stats as the game went on. Ezreal jungle succeeded because of insane catch up experience, which is already gone. Kindred is still successful as things stand and is not meant to be good in literally every matchup. I don't know why people dislike this fact but if the champion could fight literally anyone then it'd be a busted champion simply because of how huge the issue of being squishy is.

Anyway, asking for tips on Kindred like when to pick her/when not to and what to do with your advantage and general pathing is better than just straight up asking for buffs. Kindred is still able to suffocate games as things currently stand unless the Kindred player is just bad.

I'm pretty sure Ivern will succeed as long as support items are strong, he's just been overnerfed constantly because he gets abused in pro play.

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