Just has a 100% scaling on ad and ap on e, can go invisible plus jump over walls (gives him easiest escape in game), can assasinate anyone, can easily turret dive, has the dumbest clone in the game, and his w, just wow. So balanced
alasarcher3 votesAnd yet 75 gold counter him easily.
PabloMaster543213 votesYeah, 1 pink ward can help you so much...........
Demoman3 votesMust've had a bad experience.
I'll start with the "assassinate anyone". I'd like to see a shaco try to assassinate a nautilus top. It would make my day. If by "easily turret dive", you mean take one or two more turret shots courtesy of his clone, then I'll give you that much. Even then, not doing it for me. What about his W? You really captivated me there. Hes incredibly squishy, falls off late, and frankly, his ult is poorly used 99% of the time. The other 1% is utilized by people who have more than 20 games on shaco.
Void Nargacuga1 votesYou play 
often? If so I just want to ask a question: Why is he build AD so often? Just a bit of curiosity on my end that I've had since I had the chance to play him in One-for-All (my team suggested I go AP since everyone one else was kinda going AD) and later saw his AP ratios on the League of Legends Wikia.
Demoman2 votesHe has good AP ratios, but the abilities that have the potential to do the most damage when playing AP shaco aren't all that easy to execute. When building AP shaco, most of your damage comes from your ult and your W. In order to maximize your W damage, you need to set up an ambush with (preferably) more than a single box. Someone walks in and they get chunked for a third of their HP, but you cannot follow that up with much. You have little AD and you are extremely squishy. In terms of the ult, it is easily killable and not hard to dodge. Every player above Silver 5 can distinguish a clone from the real shaco based off how much damage it receives.
Overall, the AD alternative is simply too good to pass up. His Q guarantees a crit, and that leads to a lot of AD burst damage on a single squishy.
TL;DR: AP shaco is clunky, AD shaco isn't.
Void Nargacuga1 votesAlright thanks for the info cleared up a lot for me since that was the only time I played Shaco. Was just curious really.
Uh, random thought though due to how I personally like to try getting the most out of a full kit: What about a semi hybrid build? 
Being possibly the only dual AD/AP item built.
Demoman1 votesWell, in order to go hybrid shaco, you have to play him in a "hybrid" sense. You have to capture both the ambush and assassination sides of him, and it simply isn't as good as utilizing the full assassination side. Just my two cents, a shaco main could differ on that though!
Void Nargacuga1 votesThanks for all the info though! I might have to take a crack at him again once he is on free rotation, even if its just bots to get use to him since one match of One-for-All (Against 
no less!) does not help much in getting use to him.
Takanuva1 voteshey, hybrid shaco isnt possible, but he usually does alot of hybrid damage. even when going full ad, i find a third of my damage to be magic.....weird. as far as , i love the item, and i'd build it 3/4 depending. either you heal as AS/OHE as 
and 
, or it sustains and adds burst by going ap with 
and 
.
also, shaco is hybrid, but your best "centralizing" on a stat, but he likes alot of stats. one build you could do is 
, 
, 
, and 
. its a literal one shot OHE build, and it packs alot of good stats shaco likes. building AD means your q, autos, and e hit hard, but ap has the highest potential for damage if your w gets all hits off, your e hits, and your clone explodes. ap also tends to be more passive, but is alot of fun when pulled off.
also, is a solid item on him when done right, but if you do build it, go ap or ad . the beauty of is it gives ap a chance to scale off autos, but to do so you might have to build tank. id go 
and maybe 
. even a 
would not be amiss. also, your clone does proc 
, just throwing that out there for you :D
Void Nargacuga1 votesHOLY CRAP! Thanks for all the info![slayer-pantheon-rainbows]
Next time he is free I GOTTA try him out!
Bemapon1 votesI have played a lot of Shaco, AD, AP, Hybrid/on hit, Fighter and tank.
For AD I used to go Smite upgrade into 
and skip but since 
isnt as good anymore that build does not work too well unless you are already snowballing. Now I go 
because it gives you a lot of early damage. Then build more damage items.
For AP is a pretty good item, but i normally play AP shaco top or support and get things like 
. (normally go over 
because more cdr).
Hybrid 
is actually quite a terrifying build, except you are really squishy and actually have to stay in the fight for longer than going pure AD or AP.
Fighter is the same as AD only sometimes replace with and build tank after that instead of building more damage.
And Tank is actually really fun. The clone only does a percent of your auto attacks damage, but it applies 
which scales with max HP of which it will have the same as you. Combine that with 
and watch the magic happen.
Void Nargacuga1 votesThank you two so much for all this info! I'll definitly be trying out this crazy clown next time he is free to see if I just sync with his playstyle well!
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Incognonymous2 votesShaco is one of those indicator champs that really can only be separated into the good and the bad Shacos. A good Shaco will ruin your experience against the champ forever. A bad one might as well sit in spawn.
Pentarina Only1 votesIt's because of Zed his balance has corrupted everything...
Tyrone Lannister1 votesYea his kits may be a bit overloaded but thats not what can make him "broken". A good shaco sets the pace of the game and makes you play to him. I respect good shacos for that.
BladeSteel1 votesHow is it overloaded? He barely has anything on it....
Tyrone Lannister1 votesRead his skills.
BladeSteel1 votesI did. Explain to me how that is overloaded. passive: does more damage if he is behind them. q: goes invisible and first auto is guarenteed crit. w: places a box that goes invisible. When an enemy gets in range it fears them and attacks them. e: auto attacks give a slow and an auto attack slow to jungle monsters. active is you throw it. it does damage and slows. r. make a clone. control clone using alt+mouse or r+ mouse. when the clone dies or runs out of time it blows up.
how is any of that overloaded? its really simple. Garen has more "complicated" ablilites now than shaco does. so explain. how is that "overloaded"
Healz Please1 votesLOL
Is this a serious thread? Shaco, op? Hahahahaha! Oh my god... my sides!
The Bearded Bard1 votesAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
This guy doesn't know how to play against shaco.
Everyone point and laugh!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA