Vayne's tumble and Caitlyn's head shots stack with crit, but shaco's backstab can't?

metabuser·12/11/2016, 5:36:02 PM·120 votes·4,674 views

Gee, I wonder why AD Shaco is dead

Edit: I feel like Shaco is becoming a skirmisher. He is good at 1v1s, makes good picks, not as much burst, boxes have CD before they activate, etc.

156 Comments

Oglaf12/11/2016, 7:50:40 PM38 votes

Because being a Marksman (i.e "ADC") gives you certain privileges not granted to other roles/classes since Riot wants those Champions to be "better" than everyone else to "carry the match".

Don't expect a "fix" to bring them down to other Champions' level anytime soon. It aint happening.

Junkο12/11/2016, 5:47:07 PM9 votes

Idk what you are trying to say, these abilities all work in a completely different way.

Shaco passive guarantees a critical strike, Vayne Q will crit if the AA crit, Cait's passive damage scales with crit, but the damage cannot crit, the AA can still crit normally though.

And Shaco's Q damage will crit if he attacks from behind just like Vayne, so I don't get what you are trying to say.

AD Shaco is dead because they gutted every part of his kit and gave him AP scalings to compensate, and now they want to nerf the AP scalings too.

Touch My Box12/12/2016, 7:57:58 AM6 votes

I just don't understand why he is always the target of their abuse.. His early ganks are shit because 5 base damage.. His clear is shit..cause no AoE After a gank he usually has to recall cause no recovery option.

His late game is good, but thats only because he spends 30 minutes of being a worthless burden that he should be good.

Other Assassins can either jump straight out if they fail the kill (Zed, Fizz, LeBlanc, Yasuo) Or are given shields/tankiness to survive long enough for someone else to become a threat (Diana)

Shaco will jump in and blow his Q/Hex/E combo. If they don't die you have to pray to god that they aim the wrong clone or just don't decide to cleave you out.

High Risk, Average reward and if your team doesn't understand how he works, you just cop 30 minutes of abuse.

I just don't see why he is being nerfed for excelling at the one thing he was designed to do, when lee sin can do everything better than everyone.

GrReaper9612/11/2016, 6:51:09 PM6 votes

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Quantum Lotus12/12/2016, 4:45:38 AM5 votes

An adc should not have more burst than an assassin unless that is the way the champion is built. Varus and corki are meant to burst, dps auto attackers shouldn't.

What is the point of an assassin if you can just play a ranged character who can do the job better? cough cough VAYNE

Ranged auto attackers should not be bursting like an assassin.

datfatguy12/12/2016, 6:01:02 AM2 votes

Vayne's tumble and Caitlyn's head shots stack with crit, but Graves can't have his cigar back?

EROTIC RAID BOSS12/12/2016, 2:40:19 AM1 votes

they want him to build assassin items not adc items