DBZ explains why individual climbing and matchmaking is bad

BoIa strike·10/19/2019, 6:01:47 AM·12 votes·9,700 views

You are better than the elo you are in, you want to climb. Sayians in Namek Arc explain this very well.

You = Frieza Low Elo = Namek Saga

You are playing the game, with confidence that you are going to win, but feeders? "hurr durr feeders exist in your team and the ennemy team not just your team"

Ally feeder = Vegeta Ennemy feeder = Goku

Goku and Vegeta fight and beat each other up a few times. They get stronger.

Before you know it : https://i.imgur.com/bBQpcsg.gif[/img]

Now Goku is strong enough to take down Frieza despite being weaker to begin with. Same thing happens when feeders feed off each other. and your individual impact is reduced to oblivion.

If your lane opponnent decides to play safe and farm, or build full defence and you have feeders on both teams, you are screwed.

45 Comments

Jamaree10/19/2019, 6:34:50 AM8 votes

Doesn't your opponent have to deal with that as well. So if you are both dealing with feeders and they are able to carry and you can't, doesn't that mean they are better then you?

Edit: Now that I think about it, doesn't this analogy kind of fall apart in the grand scheme of things because if Frieza decided to use his massive power over the other Z fighters at the start instead of wasting his time gloating at how much stronger he was, ie, using his advantage to end the game, he wouldn't have given Goku the time to get his several Zenkai boost.

Seriously, Frieza could have went to each village, quickly get the dragonball, not waste time trying to boost his ego and KDA, gotten the balls, then dipped before Goku had time to get there, or even Krillin and Gohan had he not gloated, gotten his scouters blown up, continued to waste time after he got the new scouters from the Ginyus, continued to waste MORE time fighting a person going average instead of getting the dragonballs (fighting Nail instead of you know...doing what he planned to do, AS WELL as bothering to follow him for like an hour, ie being baited into a chase), and then waste even MORE time not using his full strength and then again wasting even MORE time not immediately killing the Z Fighters who he was clearly stronger then by playing around more BEFORE KILLING HIMSELF in the end.

So are you saying that you waste time not ending the game to instead pad your KDA and boost your ego?

Ameliea10/19/2019, 12:53:33 PM4 votes

This is actually the perfect analogy. You think you are better than everyone and look down on others, and due to your hubris get beaten by actually hard working individuals who focus on improving over gloating how great you are.

Pika Fox10/19/2019, 1:05:25 PM4 votes

So what youre saying is..... The only way youd lose is to be cocky and not take it seriously from the start, then killing yourself at the end?

I mean, frieza could kill goku at any moment while hes feeding.

HoldMyPlank10/19/2019, 9:11:37 AM3 votes

Goku and Vegeta fight and beat each other off a few times.

Can you be more specific? Asking for a friend.

ArtumisPrime10/19/2019, 4:13:57 PM2 votes

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Goku and Vegeta beat each other off a few times.

lol

Douglas Funnie10/19/2019, 12:35:56 PM2 votes

I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. So, you're saying:

If I'm an offensive player and both teams have feeders but the enemy team has defensive players, I will lose? However, I will somehow miraculously become Goku, heal up in the Rejuvenation Chamber and become stronger just in time to win the game, yet still lose because there's feeders on the enemy team because there's also feeders on my team?

Buff Gangplank6910/20/2019, 5:08:05 PM1 votes

this but in my games the part where enemies feed doesnt happen and im left with a team tahts 0 19 and im sitting here thinking im winning lane with 20 farm lead, like fuck this

G0blinSlay3r10/19/2019, 9:58:24 AM1 votes

"pyke wearing a funnel on his head" huh sorry could not hear your screams of suffering

Jesi Oni10/19/2019, 2:40:00 PM1 votes

Frieza should finish the game instead of flaming and trolling.

Eedat10/19/2019, 6:37:46 PM1 votes

I mean if Frieza didn't fuck around he could have slaughtered all the Z fighters easily. Literally the only reason they won was plot armor

Imagine being this delusional that you think this actually makes sense. It's absolutely fucking insane the lengths people will go to blame anything but themselves.

I think y'all need to get your shit together because people, if anything, are creatures of habit and you are really, really fucking yourself hard in life by allowing yourself to get into this habit. The habit of deflection instead of being self critical and working on improvement. Sure, sometimes you get dealt a shitty hand but you need to figure out a way to work through it and not collapse and find a scapegoat

Jeddy01710/19/2019, 9:44:15 PM1 votes

"Elo levels are bullshit."

Bronze Vegeta playing Yasuo.

Posui Gart10/19/2019, 10:45:23 PM1 votes

And what were you(the non-feeder) doing all the time? Ok, you couldn't kill your lane opponent because he played ultra safe. You can roam to the lane with those 2 feeders and kill the enemy. Because of your lane opponent being forced into defence, your jungler now can counterjungle easier or take objectives Or you can just farm more minions and build an advantage with that

You can't guarantee winning 100% games, but if you are stuck at same elo for 100+ games, you probably don't play that much better then everyone else there