How often have you been pissed b/c a champ was too tanky?

caseybanned·Sep 21, 2019·38 votes·15,979 views

Compared to when being pissed because you died so fast.

113 Comments

Somebody Love MeSep 22, 201937 votes

Only when the champ is tanky and shitting damage at the same time

DuskDaUmbreonSep 21, 201929 votes

Well, there's literally every time Nautilus or Mundo have been picked...

LauchmelderSep 21, 201917 votes

Mundo I get pissed at how tanky he is (and how much damage he deals at the same time).

Nautilus I get pissed at how bullshit his Q is. They really need to either fix his hitbox or fix his animation.

3ternalkarmaSep 22, 20198 votes

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Well, there's literally every time Nautilus or Mundo have been picked...

hmm every time i pick mundo enemy team picks Vayne or Kaisa and i may as well not exist...

Daddy AntsSep 22, 20193 votes

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hmm every time i pick mundo enemy team picks or and i may as well not exist...

That's called counterpicking.

It's a part of the game.

Everytime I lock in Vayne or Kaisa , enemy ADC picks Caitlyn Draven or Ashe .

Z3SIeeperSep 23, 20193 votes

Yeah I agree counterpicking is part of the game.

They picked Garen? Pick Kennen. They picked Darius? Pick Kennen. They picked Illaoi? Pick Kennen. They picked Jax? Pick Kennen. They picked Urgot? Pick Kennen. They picked Aatrox? Pick Kennen.

Picking a melee champion before your opponent picks is probably the biggest noob mistake. People need to learn that counterpicking is a fundamental part of this game and git gud already.

EonslegacySep 24, 20192 votes

This is a solid argument. But i picked kennen so I won.

Z3SIeeperSep 24, 20192 votes

Just don't first pick him. If you first pick anything you are dumb and deserve to lose. It's totally up to you to not pick before your opponent.

EonslegacySep 24, 20191 votes

XD aint that the way, last pick red side powers go. XD

The thigh guySep 22, 201910 votes

My only problem with someone being too tanky, is when they are also shitting out damage. Looking at you Riven Aatrox Akali Darius Irelia Illaoi Jax Mordekaiser Pyke Renekton Sylas Swain Urgot Yasuo XinZhao

Jesus. I despise more champions than I thought.

EternalDominateSep 22, 20197 votes

So you hate all bruisers?

The thigh guySep 22, 20194 votes

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So you hate all bruisers?

All bruisers who are better tanks than actual tanks. So currently all of them yes.

RagnaveilSep 23, 20191 votes

Even though a tank is able to do better than Aatrox right now.

The thigh guySep 23, 20193 votes

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Even though a tank is able to do better than Aatrox right now.

Because he got his minion clear gutted. He is still better than tanks in every way but that.

RagnaveilSep 23, 20192 votes

Not really. His damage is still subpar because its all jammed on one ability that requires E to land it.

The thigh guySep 23, 20192 votes

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Not really. His damage is still subpar because its all jammed on one ability that requires E to land it.

One ability, with a low cooldown. And then his bonus damage auto attacks.

This is like saying Zoe doesn’t do a lot of damage because all her damage is loaded onto her q. It’s just delusional.

RagnaveilSep 23, 20192 votes

All the damage is jammed on the tips of the ability except Q3, which is in the middle. You still would have to spam Q1 and Q2, have them land, and cast W, to guarantee Q3 without flash. He only has one bonus damage auto attack, that gets its cooldown lowered by spelling hitting champs and autoing them. He never reaches 2.0 AS, so its safe to say its not up perma. The cooldown ALSO STARTS once the ability is done casting period, unlike Riven's Q, which has its cooldown start on first cast, leading to it being up 24/7.

We get it, you hate all bruisers, even if its only a small handful causing trouble. Guess what, Aatrox isn't a part of that anymore, hes dead in the ground for the second time in a row this year.

VanCanBanManSep 23, 20192 votes

akali isn't tanky what

JAMASAKSep 23, 20191 votes

u can't build hp on pyke tho.... sure u can build armor, but that doesn't outlock the fact that ap oneshots him. and he only gets alot of health in lvl 18 like EVERY other champ(exept yuumi ofc)

The thigh guySep 23, 20192 votes

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u can't build hp on pyke tho.... sure u can build armor, but that doesn't outlock the fact that ap oneshots him. and he only gets alot of health in lvl 18 like EVERY other champ(exept yuumi ofc)

Who cares? He still has one of if not the highest base hps and the best base armors in the game.

And he regens his ENTIRE health bar any time you lose vision of him.

Anu3isIISep 23, 20192 votes

The problem with Pyke is that if you don't burst him he will recover a lot of health back.

And if Magic Damage is a problem, he can always build Hexdrinker/Maw. These items are a major reason why he had a safe laning phase when Solo Mid.

Gamma SectorSep 21, 20197 votes

Singed, Malphite, and Galio. Get to tank AND do a fuck ton of damage

EternalDominateSep 22, 20193 votes

That is only an assassin problem. Malphite Singed and Galio arent champions you should be assassinating even if they are full damage.

WashyMoneySep 22, 20197 votes

All the time. All the fucking time. You haven't played league for a long time if you think super tanky champions are toxic as fuck.

Typhl0Sep 22, 20197 votes

My problem isn't their tankyness, it's their tankyness plus their dmg, it's rly boring because I'm an assassin main and I don't understand why they have the right to be tank and having that much dmg

WoonStruckSep 22, 20197 votes

Nobody here wants to mention vlad's 4k+ hp and 700+ ap?

preternaturalSep 22, 20196 votes

nautilus. anytime aftershock get's procced. taric into heavy AD team. Garen Kled stupid tanky aatrox and mundo, they do the same thing differently and i don't like it at all. Riven shield + R means i permaban her because there's no job she can't do without more dmg.

Pandemic PunchSep 22, 201913 votes

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nautilus. anytime aftershock get's procced. taric into heavy AD team. stupid tanky aatrox and mundo, they do the same thing differently and i don't like it at all. shield + R means i permaban her because there's no job she can't do without more dmg.

What makes your post frustrating is that you only named one tank.... but you are still correct. It just shows how irrelevant actual tanks are.

AlienPrimateSep 22, 20196 votes

Never because a tank you can just walk away from. You can't walk away from getting 3 shot.

LaçezSep 22, 20191 votes

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Never because a tank you can just walk away from. You can't walk away from getting 3 shot.

Except you can't... Especially when towers seem to not exist while Rammus, Garen & Mundo are hurtling towards you with movement speed steroids & a righteous glory.

AlienPrimateSep 23, 20191 votes

Mundo and Garen are both juggernauts.

LaçezOct 2, 20191 votes

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Mundo and Garen are both juggernauts.

I don't see the fairness of tankiness & damage while still being able to have extreme chase potential. I don't even know how to go about arguing against Juggernauts, because people usually tend to simply say "oh they're juggernauts" & everything is ok all of a sudden, as if a class distinction means you're allowed to be broken.

NhikaSep 23, 20191 votes

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Never because a tank you can just walk away from. You can't walk away from getting 3 shot.

You can walk away from a Mundo?

AlienPrimateSep 23, 20192 votes

Mundo is a juggernaut

Anu3isIISep 23, 20192 votes

To be fair, the initial topic was about any champion being too "tanky", not only tanks. Mundo is one of the tankiest champions you can get, including Tanks as a class, so he tends to be one of those too tanky champions based on community's perspective.

KennekySep 22, 20196 votes

Pretty much every Juggernaut that is ahead like Darius or Garen . Others including are DrMundo (literal bullet sponge), Irelia , Urgot just to name a few.

EternalDominateSep 22, 20196 votes

It's fun af to get fed on garen and literally become unkillable. Even better if you have a yuumi.

Tin ObliteratesSep 22, 20194 votes

Jax when he's fed, shit's scary.

Wild GeeseSep 22, 20194 votes

A lot lately, Dr. Mundo is popular now.

Also, anybody who makes item 3053 , I swear that item makes any damage champ a massive pain in the butt (looking at you Irelia and Jax )

Godzilla ThemeSep 22, 20193 votes

Mordekaiser Kayn Tank? Never heard of them.

MaskedMadnessSep 22, 20192 votes

almost every bruiser,fighter,juggernaut do this. they arent "tanks" but i call it tank meta aswell as blame it.

a while ago i did rough calculating and darius could have 4K+ health with a base of 300-400 AD(which is typical assassin base damage) and true damage with conq. and of course he can use his execute ult which resets

EternalDominateSep 22, 20192 votes

Yeah but you realize he can easily be cced and kited, theres a reason darius isnt played in pro play.

MaskedMadnessSep 22, 20193 votes

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Yeah but you realize he can easily be cced and kited, theres a reason darius isnt played in pro play.

we arent pro play. darius rules community play. and everyone abides by the kite/cc. thats one of the reasons some darius take tp ghost or ghost flash.

EonslegacySep 24, 20191 votes

May I introduce phase rush into this equation

EternalDominateSep 24, 20191 votes

No reason to run phase rush on darius, conqueror or hail of blades are way better.

EonslegacySep 24, 20191 votes

Preeetty sure every darius main in high elo states that phase rush is the only way to deal with ranged/kiting champs and the best rune overall. Conqueror almost never wins vs any of the other choices for darius, fleet is even better since the nerfs (darius E buff made it really weak). Hail is the duel rune tho. You got me there. Needs the 5 stax as fast as possible.

PhantomPranksterSep 22, 201912 votes

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almost every bruiser,fighter,juggernaut do this. they arent "tanks" but i call it tank meta aswell as blame it.

you can't call it a tank meta if the tanks aren't the problem LOL

MaskedMadnessSep 22, 20191 votes

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you can't call it a tank meta if the tanks aren't the problem LOL

but they are. first i define a tank by someone who builds majority defensive which is all that i listed. but tank class is also got some bs champions.

Mundo can 1v1 mostly any adc's. in fact i have once tower dived during laning phase a fed lucian who came top lane. and killed him

sejuani is super tanky but can still dish out lots of damage because freezing someone and hitting them lets you do major damage

poppy same as mundo can 1v1 most adcs because for whatever reason she can do high damage despite being a tank

Nunu

so even though originally i didnt mention the "Tank" class. tanks themselves also deal more damage then they should.

GelsominoKillerSep 22, 20194 votes

If they build triforce into sterak, you're not dealing with tanks. Tank is a role, a purpose. A Tank is someone whose role in a teamfight is soaking damage. Darius purpose in a teamfight is pentakill dunk the enemy team; survivability is not Darius' purpose, only the mean he's allowed to reach his purpose.

Moreover, i see you have in your mind a criteria for such as "if he can 1v1 an adc, he's broken". Being an ADC role that of a hyperscaling backline squishy DPS, in theory they shouldn't 1v1 shit (outside of the lategame). When alone and far from turrets, they should almost auto lose to assassins, juggernauts, divers, and burst mages, save for consistent outplay. Obviously, there are some ADCs designed for that, and they should pay adequately for this. Lucian is good design, for he trades strong kiting potential coupled with early game dominance for range and lategame scaling. Vayne, not so much.

All this to say that Mundo running down an adc in a sidelane is how things should work; Mundo right now is super broken, but for different reasons.

In this fked up game state, tanks are only relevant when they're able to dish out exaggerate damage: this is why Maokai is trollpicking while Sejuani is god tier.

The KombinatorSep 23, 20192 votes

I hate being oneshot more, than hard to kill enemy. Though hard to kill enemy with tons of damage also a problem, and i saw that so many times. On the other hand. There are anti-tank champions, that can kill any tank. No matter how much armor, mr, or health they got. Yi, and Vayne to be precise, and some other also capable to build against tanks. Also i noticed, that a 5 player focus can kill any tank really fast in lategame.

Being oneshot is pretty difficult to deal with. Especially with the CDR everywhere style. I remember the fed Rengar oneshotting me as Xerath. Literary 0,0s. from 100% health. I could only survive with Zhonya while he jumps. Zed also did similar to my ADC even with me as Lulu protecting her. Full como, and outdamaged my shield, ult, and exhaust.