I honestly find it ridiculous riot gave this champ basically a global range W that is faster than say an Ashe ulty. The speed of her W should be reduced because theres no dodging it at any kind of standoff where everyone is grouped up. IT IS TIME FOR A NERF RIOT.
Basically the fix is slowing it down, so the ability is not faster than some champions ultys which have significantly higher CD and do the same damage with little CD,
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesYou posted this same exact thread yesterday.
S420L Texan1 votesI was told to post this in the gameplay discussion board
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesI honestly find it ridiculous riot gave this champ basically a global range Q that is faster than say an Ashe ulty.
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I mean, for one, everything is faster than Ashe's ult. Even Ashe's autos are faster than her ult. And her Q is hardly global. The thing doesn't even let her hit enemy casters from her own casters.
The speed of her W should be reduced because theres no dodging it at any kind of standoff grouped up.
...What? I mean, her W is fairly fast, but it's also fairly long range. But I literally can't understand what you mean by that second part.
IT IS TIME FOR A NERF RIOT.
Her Q and W are fast, and that justifies a nerf?
...Does this mean Mordekaiser needs a nerf, because his R is fast?
S420L Texan1 votesI am comparing long range abilities... when very few champs have them. Ashe, Ez, Jinx, Kai'Sa. Her W range and speed are absolutely ridiculous compared to these champions ultimates. What ridiculous is that it can be spammed and it is super hard to dodge in any team stand off.
Do you not understand that giving a champion a W (vastly shorter CD) that is better than some global ultimates can be OP?
You know stand off like a cowboy standoff? when both teams are together ready to initiate. Kai'Sa W delivers amazing damage and like you said pretty fast, making it hard to dodge in this proximity.
Mord has nothing to do with these range champs
BLIGHTBRINGER2 votesKai'Sa*
S420L Texan1 votesI've been pronouncing her name wrong this entire time. Sounds better IMO as (Cass - sigh)
Onecimus2 votesI honestly find it ridiculous riot gave this champ basically a global range Q that is faster than say an Ashe ulty. The speed of her W should be reduced because theres no dodging it at any kind of standoff grouped up. IT IS TIME FOR A NERF RIOT.
1). Her Q that fires a couple of missiles nearby her? That's not even close to global son.
2). Her W you can EASILY dodge by standing behind a minions or... sidestepping.
3). Grouped up standoffs? ARAM? You want her nerfed in ARAM?
S420L Texan1 votesdid you read my comment ? honestly it sounds like you've never played high level league where there are group stand offs
Onecimus2 votesdid you read my comment ? honestly it sounds like you've never played high level league where there are group stand offs
There is always something better you can be doing than standing huddled so close to together that you can't dodge a skillshot. If these are a common occurrence for you, then Malphite and Brand must be absolute terrors in your games.
S420L Texan1 votesThere is always something better you can be doing than standing huddled so close to together that you can't dodge a skillshot. If these are a common occurrence for you, then Malphite and Brand must be absolute terrors in your games.
Still not even close to Kai'Sa's range, but keep going. I will listen to your explanation.
Your acting like malph and brand abilities can't dulled by a Locket. wouldn't ever use locket on 1 Kai'sa W just gotta move on from that. Also against the champs you just mentioned if there isn't a locket some MR is probably needed for brand or full AP Malph. Now if its just a tank Malph the cc is nice but little damage. Now Kai'Sa can be AD or AP, so building some defense is little harder and she always hits hard if you are squishy.
We can agree to disagree on my point that Kai'Sa W is an easy long range skill shot.
Onecimus1 votesStill not even close to Kai'Sa's range, but keep going. I will listen to your explanation.
I think you missed my point. Generally, a team doesn't just stand huddled in a corner waiting for a fight as you have described. But some other champions that capitalize on those opportunities are Brand and Malphite.
If said circumstance happened with either of those on the other team, it would be an easy ace for the other team.
But Kai'sa has her W, which she can pew pew from a distance and do a fair bit of damage. But then what? If she ults in alone, she's dead. So all that has happened is a bit of damage on someone who wasn't fast enough to dodge a skillshot.
S420L Texan1 votesI think you missed my point. Generally, a team doesn't just stand huddled in a corner waiting for a fight as you have described. But some other champions that capitalize on those opportunities are Brand and Malphite.
If said circumstance happened with either of those on the other team, it would be an easy ace for the other team.
But Kai'sa has her W, which she can pew pew from a distance and do a fair bit of damage. But then what? If she ults in alone, she's dead. So all that has happened is a bit of damage on someone who wasn't fast enough to dodge a skillshot.
I edited my comment before this that is relevant to your first part and second comment.
that pew pew IMO does a little too much damage to squishes. As any squishy getting hit for a quarter health before the team fight occurs is pretty detrimental (bc you know squishes are the carries/ should get the most damage off). I am only silver 1 and am a little impatient for these fights to occur (I'm working on that), so I wanna lay a little poke myself if you catch my drift, but a kai'Sa takes advantage of poor me. I just want a little more time for me to dodge it man. cause getting out of range of it isn't happening and that W speed is better than some global Ultimates. Can you name me a Q, W, or E that has that range? Jhin comes to mind but it tickles late game.
S420L Texan1 votesI'll come back to this thread for a I told you so moment when either her W gets slowed down or damage reduced.
REDCOLORED1 votesI can ask for yi nerf than. Riot knows what they are doing we arent Riot so we cant nerf what we want.
S420L Texan1 votesI can ask for yi nerf than. Riot knows what they are doing we arent Riot so we cant nerf what we want.
All i am doing is creating a discussion on why she should be nerfed and which ability should get nerfed. I personally do not like the speed, damage, range, and area her W covers. This also happens a good amount with new champs who are made to be OP to gage players to use that champ and later on will receive a nerf
REDCOLORED1 votesAll i am doing is creating a discussion on why she should be nerfed and which ability should get nerfed. I personally do not like the speed, damage, range, and area her W covers.
Kaisa has AK 47 in abilities but it is the way it is. go draft ban problem fixed.
S420L Texan1 votesKaisa has AK 47 in abilities but it is the way it is. go draft ban problem fixed.
You ain't wrong I just like blind and prefer to ban other champions in ranked. I am sure she will receive a nerf, but its just a guess. Her Q is pretty OP too, but is only used in engage situations.
REDCOLORED2 votesYou ain't wrong I just like blind and prefer to ban other champions in ranked. I am sure she will receive a nerf, but its just a guess. Her Q is pretty OP too, but is only used in engage situations.
I know how you feel i play draft because yi is hell for me as new player.. when i ban yi than veigar exists in game or vayne but i picked YI as ban as worst for me. all we can do is play and try to get higher skill so we can counter even hypercarry champs or broken ones
S420L Texan1 votesI know how you feel i play draft because yi is hell for me as new player.. when i ban yi than veigar exists in game or vayne but i picked YI as ban as worst for me. all we can do is play and try to get higher skill so we can counter even hypercarry champs or broken ones
IMO yi at the moment is easily countered. Later in games that is where your team should start to group up more because its easier to secure kills. Once yi used his q stay put near the team and a good support or anyone with a stun should stop him. Zed I feel is harder cause he has the ability to get in get out in those type of situations as for yi with no flash (deleted).
REDCOLORED1 votesIMO yi at the moment is easily countered. Later in games that is where your team should start to group up more because its easier to secure kills. Once yi used his q stay put near the team and a good support or anyone with a stun should stop him. Zed I feel is harder cause he has the ability to get in get out in those type of situations as for yi with no flash (deleted).
He isn't easy for me ..
S420L Texan1 votesHe isn't easy for me ..
I understand that for right now. I can offer suggestions to help (take it how you want) cause I like playing yi, but have found he's harder to play in higher elos or ranked. What lane do you like playing? Is early, mid or late game yi do you find playing the hardest?
CloudedLogic1 votesI am just confused as to why her W is basically just a better version of Jhin's or at least that is how I view it.