Champion nerfs @riot

xReIjp05OJ·May 31, 2016·32 votes·2,395 views

I think its time for you guys to man up and hard nerf champions. We're all tired of you guys soft nerfing champions because youre terrified they'll become useless and no one will play them. Id rather not wait 2-4 weeks over 2+ patches for you to slowly adjust champs.

If it so happens that you overnerfed a champion you can always hotfix it (like you did with many champs last patch), either way its just super depressing with the way you nerf champs currently.

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Idc if you guys want to down vote, but honestly these so called nerfs are just so weak, its just sad.

Edit: P.S. Since you guys decided to make everyone broken, and the champs that are considered balanced arent played much, might as well give us 4-5 bans each, instead of 3. Thanks.

53 Comments

FostXTVMay 31, 201617 votes

But, my Azir gets his ult duration out to 3 seconds from 5/6/7, removing movement speed too and not being able to cast W on towers, meanwhile Zed gets 30 damage taken off his Q and Second Shuriken damage buffed from 50% to 75%. Favorism in its finest.

BisaknospMay 31, 20163 votes

that nerf to azir wont do shit to his laning phase he will still be dominant af and his tf presence is way too good anyways i would call it a fair nerf

but i agree the zed nerf is like nothing

Kuroi86May 31, 20161 votes

Did the numbers, Zeds single Q loses 10% damage in return for his double Q doing 10% more damage.

B1naryB0tMay 31, 20161 votes

Throw in the fact that zed doesn't build item 3089

GrithokMay 31, 20161 votes

Azir is a champion that has gotten 1v4 quadra kills in a professional environment, without being fed. I'm not defending the relatively small Zed nerfs, here, there needs to be a bigger hit to w in my opinion. Or a hit to his attack speed, to make lifesteal less useful. I can justify my ideas, but this isn't the thread for that.

As I was saying, Azir has a far higher winrate, and he is also crushingly unfun to play against as most champs.

DefendedMay 31, 20165 votes

Honestly dude those are the same champs i constantly bitch about.

xReIjp05OJMay 31, 20165 votes

I mean yeah theyre all known for being cancer champs currently due to itemization or their kit, etc.

People only play broken shit because if you dont play the broken shit you wont be able to keep up with the rest, sadly.

RIP: Evelynn Galio Heimerdinger Karthus Jayce JarvanIV Nocturne Syndra , etc

DefendedMay 31, 20163 votes

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I mean yeah theyre all known for being cancer champs currently due to itemization or their kit, etc.

People only play broken shit because if you dont play the broken shit you wont be able to keep up with the rest, sadly.

RIP: , etc

DONT MENTION THOSE CHAMPS.. THEY'RE TOO BALANCED

Lady HammerlockMay 31, 20163 votes

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DONT MENTION THOSE CHAMPS.. THEY'RE TOO BALANCED

what you talking about?Heimer is crazy weak

bill84May 31, 20162 votes

Jayce and Galio are my two favorite champs. I am so happy to be in bronze where I can win with anything.

aLawfulFalafelMay 31, 20163 votes

^^this guy ^^

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Punching TopMay 31, 20162 votes

Zilean ;_;

ErrastasMay 31, 20162 votes

You can keep up without playing broken shit, you just don't bother to learn.

Much easier to complain on boards, I'm all for a bigger nerf so I can still stomp players like you with whatever I feel like.

I'll take my down votes for speaking truth. You can't beat them now and you won't beat them after a nerf.

xReIjp05OJJun 1, 20161 votes

I looked you up and you have a 37% win rate playing Alistar Annie Lux , tell me more about how you dont learn champions.

And i promise you anyone who climbed elo using tank ekko or tank fizz would drop down ranks easily because they can only play broken champions.

Why play nidalee when you can play pantheon. Why play cassiopia when you can play annie. Why play riven when you can play darius.

Point is... Why play a hard champ thats strong when you can play an easy champ thats strong.

You can stick to believing that you can keep up without the most broken shit, but you cant even prove it for yourself. You have a 37% win rate in silver/bronze. Thats questionable.

ErrastasJun 1, 20161 votes

I've barely played this season compared to last few and you're welcome to check that out. Been mostly supporting this season and decided to stay there.

Ali is my main support this season and the other two are fun to play once in a while.

I also started Bronze 4 last season, so I'm not worried about the climb once I actually start playing more than one game every two weeks.

xReIjp05OJJun 2, 20161 votes

The point isnt ur win rate its that the champs you play are broken and brain dead.

Alistar - The most broken support, right next to braum and janna. Annie - Brain dead champ that does insane damage, for no real reason. Lux - Brain dead champ that used to be super good, not sure where she is right now though.

ErrastasJun 2, 20161 votes

Clearly you didn't bother to check champ pool for other seasons. Only reason I'm even playing Annie support is because my carries in silver can't do damage or they need someone like Ali to babysit them. If those champs are so freelo everyone would be plat in no time.

xReIjp05OJJun 2, 20161 votes

lol

Friendly RamMay 31, 20164 votes

Just my 2 cents, morning wood seems fun but not op currently tank ekko nerfs are on the way fish does need nerfs ryze is up for a complete overhaul zed needs nerfs blackanola is just getting new items, and rito will probally rebalance the items like when all adcs where building steraks.

xReIjp05OJMay 31, 20161 votes

lmao

CppLMay 31, 20163 votes

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Just my 2 cents, morning wood seems fun but not op currently tank ekko nerfs are on the way fish does need nerfs ryze is up for a complete overhaul zed needs nerfs blackanola is just getting new items, and rito will probally rebalance the items like when all adcs where building steraks.

Sadly but maokai needs a nerf.Tankines,sustain,cc,dmg someone has to go.So as fizz.His E cd should go up at later lvls.Or his W passive dmg has to go down.Its stupid how can ap champ out duel a figther in autos...

USG FailsawceMay 31, 20164 votes

As people have said in this thread, Maokai isn't even one of those that are OP. He hasn't really been changed (only nerfed actually). People are just finally realizing that he's a good pick top bc the pros use him suddenly - that's how it usually goes isn't it?

The rest definitely need some pretty severe nerfs, and this coming from someone who plays a lot of zed recently - and played tank ekko jungle to well over mastery 5 since 2-3 weeks after his release. Long before it became this popular/meta.

I said he was flat out broken from the start, and none of his "nerfs" have ever fixed that.

As far as Ryze goes, I wish they would just revert him to how he was originally, before any rework... MUCH healthier, and MUCH more fun. Didn't need a rework nearly as bad as some other champs in this game.

And fizz... well, fuck fizz.

Rand0mH3r0XMay 31, 20163 votes

Maoki has been relatively the same for the last 4 years. His itemization has stayed the same as well.

I think you're thinking more with your right handed self since your left hand is on the screen touching Ahri. Learn to play please.

aLawfulFalafelMay 31, 20163 votes

maokai has been strong since the first day i played him, hes never been OP or in need of a Nerf hammer, small changes here and there to keep him in tune with the rest of the game, yes. but he is on the strong side of the balanced champs list and if you face a good mao, he can feel OP AF that's for sure :)

billxxMay 31, 20162 votes

Since when is fizz op?

CIickTheLanternMay 31, 20161 votes

Did he just say fizz was overnerfed?

xReIjp05OJMay 31, 20164 votes

"I think its time for you guys to man up and hard nerf champions." can you read?

spombjopMay 31, 20161 votes

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Did he just say fizz was overnerfed?

grievous wounds on W - removed Q dodgable - meanwhile if u flash from pant W u're still stunned.

and once his AP scaling on W was removed so he wasn't even viable AP. who the fuck does that, making AP assassin not viable going AP?

yeah he was overnerfed, right now he is just nerfed. just like leblanc but both of them still wreck scrubs so they're crying on boards

flying banelingsMay 31, 20161 votes

Kill em

spombjopMay 31, 20161 votes

Ahri overbuffed in 5.2 for no reason at all and became the most OP champ in 5.2 with 57% win rate. giving extra mobility to champ with triple dash while YORICK didn't get any buffs. Akali nerfed to the ground even if she is nowhere near safe as Ahri Nami nerfed in season 4. FACT. MasterYi nerfed in 2016... meanwhile: XinZhao Yasuo Tryndamere Shyvana Khazix no nerfs Veigar both overbuffed in 6.10 (or 6.9, not sure which one).

AstôlfoMay 31, 20161 votes

implying Trynd/Shyv/Kha needs nerfs and that Yi didn't

lmao my sides I'm dying

spombjopMay 31, 20161 votes

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implying Trynd/Shyv/Kha needs nerfs and that Yi didn't

lmao my sides I'm dying

that's right. if they nerfed yi they should nerf these 3 as well. when u last time saw kha jungle that didn't got fed? well yeah i don't remember that too. or shyvana, braindead goes full tank and doing more damage than carries + it's mixed damage

AstôlfoMay 31, 20163 votes

I'm crying with laughter. Trynd is literal trash. Kha'Zix is arguably one of the most balanced assassin junglers, is a worse Rengar, and is just not good in general right now. Shyvana is okayish but hardly relevant at all.

The QQ crying is real.

LankPantsMay 31, 20161 votes

Shyvana didn't get nerfed, what universe are you living in?

spombjopMay 31, 20162 votes

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Shyvana didn't get nerfed, what universe are you living in?

yeah she was once, in late S3 or early S4, i don't remember correctly, but i'm talking about now

LankPantsMay 31, 20161 votes

V6.6:

Twin Bite Second hit bonus damage reduced to 40 / 55 / 70 / 85 / 100% AD from 80 / 85 / 90 / 95 / 100% AD.

spombjopMay 31, 20161 votes

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V6.6:

Twin Bite Second hit bonus damage reduced to 40 / 55 / 70 / 85 / 100% AD from 80 / 85 / 90 / 95 / 100% AD.

that is bonus damage, i'm talking about some base stats. like yi ult cooldown. that is not real nerf.

SithesisLordMay 31, 20162 votes

Yes, it is. Bonus damage from 80% AD to 40% AD?

It´s half the damage early on. And Shyvana isn´t someone known to buy any AD other than Titanic Hydra.

Remember when Smite/Exhaust Shyvana was a thing? Now everyone's taking Flash instead. Shyvana is even doing poorly currently, with a winrate under 50% and a 3.04% play rate.

If anything, she needs all her nerfs this season reverted. Or some buffs elsewhere.

GayFluffyUnicornMay 31, 20162 votes

So the shyvanas with devourer, bortk, titanic and two tank items i saw were just imagination? And that they just butchered everything in their path being nearly unkillable. She deserved those nerfs.

DorkunedAurasMay 31, 20162 votes

what's devourer?

You mean this thing? item 1416

SithesisLordJun 1, 20162 votes

What if i told you DEVOURER was the problem, not Shyvana?

It´s why the enchantment is called Bloodrazor now and was completely changed. Also, fun fact, the DEvourer junglers bar Kayle and Kindred are all with less than 50% winrate.

Refer to my first sentence for the reason why.

The DeckownerMay 31, 20161 votes

xin got random small buff and then smacked with nerf hammer shyvana two nerfs in a row

YJRBqwXJcSMay 31, 20161 votes

suggested this in season 5 and got more than 10+ downvotes

KeyoshiMay 31, 20161 votes

i didnt see Graves the guy who can have one item to 2v1 people

Unfortunate GameMay 31, 20161 votes

graves is one of the "etc." Sometimes he seems like the most broken tanky unkillable champ, and sometimes he feels underwhelming. Its hard to list him as hes not as crazy as the other ones, and they already nerfed him a lot recently, but still I think his e needs a slight nerf/adjustment again.

Icestar1186May 31, 20161 votes

Frankly, I'd rather they move slowly. I remember what happened to my main... Sejuani

Edge of DaybreakMay 31, 20161 votes

So while that is a great wish I don't think boards is ready to see mages and supports get nerfed too. You can ask riot to nerf everything op but there are overpowered champions that aren't cried about.

Blue Moon WolfMay 31, 20161 votes

I think they are still looking things over from the mage update (likely after the patch this week we will see some hard nerfs), but they definitely need some nerfs and buffs to get thrown around before LC$ rears it's head. Right now, just about every champ in the top ten in win ranks have above a 53% win rate with Swain to my surprise miles ahead with a 57% win rate.

BloodyTomponJun 1, 20161 votes

Every one of those other than fizz either was nerved last patch or is being nerfed this patch.

ZT XperimentorJun 1, 20161 votes

Perhaps just buff the unplayed champions with 3 extra mechanics, including; a #-hit bonus, spammable mobility, burst damage ability, safety ability. [zombie-nunu-bummed]