Can we see some nerfs to Azir?

Grief Machine··4 votes·850 views

In my opinion, Azir is simply just too strong at the moment. His soldiers do a ludicrous amount of damage that no amount of MR can counter. He has countless jumps from a super long range. Playing against him sucks all the joy out of life. I would rather lane against Satan himself, Teemo. I would just love to see some of his power toned down a bit. Not nerfed into oblivion, but enough so that laning against him isn't a completely horrible experience.

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AbsoluteSadman4 votes

hes also countered by hard assassins, poke, mobility, people who dont waltz into his soldiers, and people who capatalize on his huge e cooldown. not to mention he's probably the hardest champion to play in the game right now.

DropFill2 votes

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hes also countered by hard assassins, poke, mobility, people who dont waltz into his soldiers, and people who capatalize on his huge e cooldown. not to mention he's probably the hardest champion to play in the game right now.

Being hard doesn't mean a champion should be OP. Also, azir shouldn't be spamming his E , which no one does, he only uses it to avoid engages or ganks. Only assassins who can actually beat him is zed or fizz, both called cancers by the community. So you basically counter cancer with cancer

Cale0172 votes

Or any Assassin with any gap close. Akali comes to mind, as she can shut down his ability to poke at her by Q Ring and then dropping her W to sit and wait while he can't target her for autos and her Q comes back up for another QRE for the kill.

Diana can just straight dive past his minions, and even his ult, to get in close, and nuke him before he gets away between the Q R AA(lich bane) W E AA (hopefully another lich bane if you spaced correctly) R combo. If he's still walking away from that, keep on him for a few second and pick him off when Q comes back off cooldown.

DropFill2 votes

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Or any Assassin with any gap close. Akali comes to mind, as she can shut down his ability to poke at her by Q Ring and then dropping her W to sit and wait while he can't target her for autos and her Q comes back up for another QRE for the kill.

Diana can just straight dive past his minions, and even his ult, to get in close, and nuke him before he gets away between the Q R AA(lich bane) W E AA (hopefully another lich bane if you spaced correctly) R combo. If he's still walking away from that, keep on him for a few second and pick him off when Q comes back off cooldown.

Both akali and diana will suffer hard pre-6. Akali less because she is cancer.

Cale0171 votes

They suffer against everyone pre six. But they also have the means to shut him down utterly post 6, so as long as they play it safe, farming under turret and only using their Qs to nab low health minions safely from afar so as not to take free harass from Azir, they're fine.

Azir is SUPPOSED to have an oppressive laning phase. Complaining about it solves nothing. Learn to work around it. That's like complaining that ADCs crit too much in the late game, or that Fizz's mid game is unfair. It's what they excel at. During a constantly shifting teamfight, Azir starts to lose his advantages because he can't always have a soldier where he's going to need it. He won't always be able to safely jump to one. And his ult could just as easily ruin a teamfight for his team as it could save them depending on how he uses it. He's a very mechanically heavy, position focused champion. If someone can play him well enough to do well given his limitations, and how much his kit punishes you for making small mistakes, they can go ahead and win with him in my book. It means my team failed to shut him down and gave him the exact openings he needed.

DropFill1 votes

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They suffer against everyone pre six. But they also have the means to shut him down utterly post 6, so as long as they play it safe, farming under turret and only using their Qs to nab low health minions safely from afar so as not to take free harass from Azir, they're fine.

Azir is SUPPOSED to have an oppressive laning phase. Complaining about it solves nothing. Learn to work around it. That's like complaining that ADCs crit too much in the late game, or that Fizz's mid game is unfair. It's what they excel at. During a constantly shifting teamfight, Azir starts to lose his advantages because he can't always have a soldier where he's going to need it. He won't always be able to safely jump to one. And his ult could just as easily ruin a teamfight for his team as it could save them depending on how he uses it. He's a very mechanically heavy, position focused champion. If someone can play him well enough to do well given his limitations, and how much his kit punishes you for making small mistakes, they can go ahead and win with him in my book. It means my team failed to shut him down and gave him the exact openings he needed.

A champion with a godlike late game should NEVER be oppressive in laning phase. Take heimer as an example. I don't care if he his mechanically heavy, doesn't mean he should be OP. Also, I don't kwhy you think a whole team should be dedicated to dive an Azir, even though this is nearly impossible against a good one

Junkο2 votes

Heimer and mechanically heavy doesn't fit together. You literally use Q 3 times and then sit still doing nothing

AbsoluteSadman1 votes

i didnt mean people using his e cooldown, i mean people who jump in on him after he e's

DropFill1 votes

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i didnt mean people using his e cooldown, i mean people who jump in on him after he e's

Why would he E into someone if he doesn't have 100% sure he is going to kill fast? Also, he ult people away if he e's is a bad moment.

Vettahn2 votes

thank god someone else has noticed how annoying this az-hole is he does too much damage in lane from too far of a distance he can free farm and kill you at the same time, and if you try to go in on him, he just dashes away

Junkο2 votes

I have been playing Azir back when he had a ton of bugs(before his ult got "fixed" to be broken and after that fix was solved) but haven't really played him a lot since. But i can tell from experience that once you get 20-30% CDR your soldiers start dealing so much damage and you have them on such a low cooldown that it is probably a nightmare to play against. You can literally disregard all concerns for safety because you will always have at least 1 soldier and QE up if you get ganked. Still not enough to escape? Use your ult, you aren't gonna use it for anything else anyway.

Gorgiolio1 votes

I just don't like how easy it is for him to harass you under tower; especially as the amount of damage he can put out before his soldier fall is pretty high. I potentially could see him needing a look at, but isn't too bad. I've never lost to him, so I'm a bit biased.

Cale0171 votes

Be careful what you wish for...

Teemo

chumbler1 votes

Nope, sorry. He's a #LCSBIGPLAYS champion, so you should expect only buffs or at best nothing.

Rinky Dinky2 votes

You even troll on the small ones.

Senpai pls :3

PrinceOfStorms1 votes

imagine the space around Azir's soldiers as fire.

Don't stand in it.

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