Mordekaiser back to being irrelevant

mikemcparty·11/22/2015, 7:00:01 PM·46 votes·4,021 views

Unfortunately, is back to being homeless. As a product of his rework, he is unable to solo lane effectively. With the changes to marksmen, he gets absolutely demolished in bot lane and is no longer viable.

As someone who used to play morde prior to his rework, is there any movement towards making him viable in solo lane and giving him a home again? This is a question I am asking to anyone.

I am having a very hard time seeing what Riot's goals were with him to begin with. Why rework him to work in a duo lane, if you knew that marksmen updates were incoming and going to keep bot lane a place exclusively for ranged adcs?

79 Comments

Mordepool11/22/2015, 8:36:21 PM16 votes

FOTM. Months over. Community is still too butt hurt to acknowledge the grand failure of the Rework. The only thing that the Rework achieved was to alienate a devote player base, get all the lower elos to hate Morde and separate him from the game

Jbels11/22/2015, 7:20:26 PM14 votes

I'm just going to sit here and pretend like I didn't warn everyone that this was going to happen.

Mal the Red11/23/2015, 3:42:08 AM7 votes

Morde can't solo lane?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Arcana Lancer11/23/2015, 7:23:35 AM5 votes

Another masterpiece by CertainlyT and his refusal to take any feedback I must say?

Transgressor11/22/2015, 9:37:18 PM3 votes

Unpopular opinion:

Fuck Mordekaiser.

Player of Games11/23/2015, 11:21:55 AM3 votes

Honestly I don't even play Mord but it is in my humble opinion that I feel as if they should honestly just revert the rework. It is more or less an unbalance-able abomination that doesn't work well in a duo lane anymore, and isn't strong enough to fit in a solo lane. The original Mordekaiser was perfectly fine albeit needing a few QoL tweaks and some minor buffs.

ltmetal11/22/2015, 8:19:23 PM3 votes

Are you ready for the secret strats? Play Morde in the jungle. AD marks and quints, scaling armor seals, flat CDR glyphs. 12/0/18 masteries. item 1401 item 3124 item 3111 item 3116 item 3065 item 3742 Warwick levels of sustain after reaching level 3, solos dragon at level 4 with double buffs, outrageous clear speeds with Rageblade, 3k HP with a 900 damage shield by 30:00 mark, can't be kited with Stalker's Blade + Rylai's. Either way, try checking out the current PBE cycle. Morde's getting buffed next patch. http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#bal2

Tengrichan11/23/2015, 8:48:02 PM2 votes

Don't worry they are nerfing him more in 5.23 so you won't even think about picking him.

Count Zubat11/22/2015, 11:08:26 PM2 votes

His Q is being changed next patch so it's damage is more consistent and his E will generate more shield. The W heal is getting changed: nerf to early game sustain, buff for late game (rank 1 and 2 heals less than on live, ranks 4 and 5 heals more). I'd say after those changes, he will finally become really enjoyable to play with. Like, for the first time since his rework, I feel optimistic about Mordekaiser. After patch 5.23, we'll just try and convince Riot to give solo Mord DoT part of W and I think he will be finally perfect. With that last move, his rework will be finished. Yes, imo, if Riot makes Morde able to cast full W, this rework will actually be good. That's my opinion.

Slamurai Jack11/22/2015, 11:27:23 PM2 votes

Morde's still fine bot lane, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Backup4now11/23/2015, 1:31:19 AM2 votes

Mordekaiser is not irrelevant.

I'll agree that his design right now is severely flawed with the bonus xp and duo-only buffs, but he is NOT irrelevant.

You're all just looking at him the wrong way.

Meep Man11/23/2015, 7:03:03 PM2 votes

I tried Solo Lane Mordekaiser once and stomped a Volibear. He's not as super bad as people call him. DFT is also extremely good with his ultimate.

Not saying he's perfect, but he's not garbage. Also, they are changing him next patch.

Stars Shaper11/22/2015, 10:40:22 PM1 votes

It's not preseason specific, but we've also got some significant follow up work on Mordekaiser coming soon. Statikk should be covering that in a separate thread in the Dev Corner within the next couple of days, with some context on what we felt worked and what didn't from the Morde rework in 5.16, plus thoughts on what our next steps are and why when it comes to addressing issues Morde has.

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I thought they would post it Friday but it seems we are to wait far more than "a couple of days".

Mael bro11/22/2015, 10:24:44 PM1 votes

I have an idea:

Give Mordekaiser a point and click cc spell.

prepares for downvotes

Gravewizard11/23/2015, 7:33:59 PM1 votes

With his new kit he makes a great support. People fail to realize this though because they have a tunnel vision that when they use him they have to carry. As a support he still has dragon on his side if he can get the ult in and can create a Rift Herold effect for bot lane. Even if he is not "fed" he can still be a force to reckon with and as a supp still has good poke or all in ability.

junglerboy1611/23/2015, 3:13:42 AM1 votes

I mean, there's a pretty substantial set of buffs to his solo-lane potential on the PBE right now (unless I missed a patch and 5.23 already came out).

Notably they're buffing his Q so that the first couple hits deal more damage and less is tied to the third hit (means you aren't punished as hard for only landing two of three hits) and they buffed his E shield generation to 15-25% max shield per champion hit from a flat 15%, and they're buffing the heal scaling on his W so that it isn't quite so strong early game but is stronger later on.