How to Solve Nidalee?

horsa·3/23/2017, 11:45:20 PM·2 votes·470 views

Nidalee is currently the lowest winrate jungler right now (not including top laners that also can be used as junglers) at 46.8%. I remember when Nidalee was super op back in S6 and do not want to see that repeated, I don't think Riot does either. How could she be buffed to fix the very unfavourable state she is currently in?

My one simple idea is to give her back her auto reset on r. She feels very clunky without it. It would slightly speed up her clear and slightly buff her dps, on skilled players. I remember Riot stating they thought auto resets were cheating because only high elo players could use them, I think that's a load of baloney and that anyone can use it with practice nor is it cheating. Assuming my idea is not one that will be used, what suggestions do you guys have?

8 Comments

hater free zone3/23/2017, 11:58:11 PM3 votes

I think skill shots in general are much too easy to dodge, and given that her spear damage scales with range it already puts her at a disadvantage where that maximum range is already super easy to dodge since you have a lot of time to see it moving toward you. She's very feast or famine and dependent on picks. In a team fight, the most you can do is poke or clean up. Her kit is not very kind to her in being inside a 5v5 fight, since she needs her mark to maximize her output, and she can't mark any targets in her cougar form.

llIllIllIllIll3/24/2017, 1:00:31 AM2 votes

Riot is just really bad at balancing hybrid champions like Nidalee - she will either be god tier or tier 20 take your pick

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SwiftKitten883/24/2017, 1:20:06 AM2 votes

i dont often see a nidalee thread asking for buffs that i didnt make...

but as the resident nidalee expert... i dont think that is the buff she needs right now.

obviously she needs a buff. but adding the reset back would just make her too easy for anyone who can properly abuse that mechanic and still nearly impossible for everyone else.

the biggest issue keeping nidalee from getting stragiht buffs is the massive 7% winrate gap between bronze at diamond. 42-49%

what she needs is a buff that wont help her higher elo play much but will significantly help her lower elo play.

now the issue is coming up with a buff like this is hard to do.. and honestly i haven't spent much time thinking about how to do it.

what i would do though is revert her kitty kills back to a 5 second cooldown. the increase to 6 second was practically unnoticeable, but did very slightly hurt her winrate.

this nerf along with the changes to her heal were doing RIGHT after worlds and the patched BEFORE the removal of strength of ages completely gutted her.

with the removal of strength of the ages i find the nerf absurdly pointless. there is absolutely zero reason to keep it.

and even if it raises her winrate by 2%... that makes what? 44-51%? i would even call 46-53% acceptable... as she IS a high skill cap champion... (although 53 is kinda pushing into the OP territory pretty far. i wouldn't normally accept this unless the win-rate gap is as large as it is) champs like Shaco can maintain a 53-55% winrate across EVERY elo and still get love taps...

if EVERY player has to deal with Shaco at 53+% i dont see why Nidalee cant have a 53% win rate for the top 2% of players. (again i want to specify that i dont think 53% an "ok" winrate to have... it's not.. if it was 53% across the board i would call for nerfs)

WindLord70703/24/2017, 11:43:01 PM1 votes

Auto resets are one of the easiest things to do. If you can't do them you shouldn't even be in ranked. I think giving it back would help her alot I also think they should just revert alot of her nerfs over the last 2 years and remove her passive hunt from working on monsters and then balance her around that so that her lane doesn't have to suffer so such.