REMOVE QSS

Ahris·Oct 7, 2017·2 votes·823 views

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ModDaenrysTargaryenOct 7, 20174 votes

I want what you are smoking dude.

MarshbouyOct 7, 20172 votes

Sounds like someone just got killed because of QSS.

AhrisOct 7, 20172 votes

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Sounds like someone just got killed because of QSS.

From balance point of view qss is not healthy.

jwebb0113Oct 7, 20173 votes

based on what ?

AhrisOct 7, 20171 votes

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based on what ?

Mage lands CC(their entire kit revolves around CC)

ADC uses QSS, then the Mage's kit is invalidated.

jwebb0113Oct 7, 20173 votes

yet QSS is never a 1st item on an adc

and item 3140 has a 90 cd cooldown, it gives adcs no damage. at all... they still take damage it dont remove the damage and the 30 mr is low

why not get rid of item 3157 from mages ... its active negates all damage ... and the armor helps sustain damage from the adc while it gives cdr, ap.

item 3157 on of the most common built items in every game for nearly EVERY MAGE ...

item 3140 hardly built and never really finished into item 3139 unless super late game

item 3157 2900 gold item 3139 3600 gold

AhrisOct 7, 20171 votes

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yet QSS is never a 1st item on an adc

and has a 90 cd cooldown, it gives adcs no damage. at all... they still take damage it dont remove the damage and the 30 mr is low

why not get rid of from mages ... its active negates all damage ... and the armor helps sustain damage from the adc while it gives cdr, ap.

on of the most common built items in every game for nearly EVERY MAGE ...

hardly built and never really finished into unless super late game

2900 gold 3600 gold

QSS is never first because other AD items are wayy to broken to avoid.

TheLastShadow45Oct 7, 20171 votes

It used to be worse. They nerfed it multiple times already.

But if they removed it then CC would be even stronger cause now you know the enemy can't do shit about it.

Lord of MathOct 7, 20172 votes

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It used to be worse. They nerfed it multiple times already.

But if they removed it then CC would be even stronger cause now you know the enemy can't do shit about it.

But then Mikaels would basically become better. Lets try and give tanky supports some kind of leg up over passive enchanters.

AhrisOct 7, 20171 votes

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But then Mikaels would basically become better. Lets try and give tanky supports some kind of leg up over passive enchanters.

Ya def, ADC being alone should mean they are vulnerable to CC.

AhrisOct 7, 20172 votes

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It used to be worse. They nerfed it multiple times already.

But if they removed it then CC would be even stronger cause now you know the enemy can't do shit about it.

Most CC has counterplay anyway(dodging). If Mages manage to land CC, then they should be rewarded.

rework trundleOct 7, 20172 votes

You landed Charm, congrats!

AhrisOct 7, 20171 votes

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You landed Charm, congrats!

well it wasnt rlly about ahri, then ya sure she lands charm.

QSS ~> Ahri AA to death ~> GG

Ahri Body PillowOct 8, 20172 votes

I mean, in the current ADC meta, something has to fuckin go

jwebb0113Oct 7, 20171 votes

is this based on your last game as azir when you had item 3157 and the enemy draven had a item 3140 ?

while the enemy had 4 ad carries and your only armor item was item 3157 ?

so its item 3140 reason why you lost ?

AhrisOct 7, 20171 votes

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is this based on your last game as azir when you had and the enemy draven had a ?

while the enemy had 4 ad carries and your only armor item was ?

so its reason why you lost ?

It is not about me losing though. In general QSS is not a healthy item.

jwebb0113Oct 7, 20171 votes

no item in the game is healthy then.

cuz crit is bad, ardent is broken, shields are broken, tanks are broken, brammle vest is broken, lethality assassins broken , hour glass broken and blah blah blah

but never less you didnt make this post til after you lost a game as AZIR ( who in capable hands is clearly broken ) against a 4 ad carry comp which one built the item you are saying is unhealthy

AhrisOct 7, 20171 votes

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no item in the game is healthy then.

cuz crit is bad, ardent is broken, shields are broken, tanks are broken, brammle vest is broken, lethality assassins broken , hour glass broken and blah blah blah

but never less you didnt make this post til after you lost a game as AZIR ( who in capable hands is clearly broken ) against a 4 ad carry comp which one built the item you are saying is unhealthy

Idk why you keep mentioning my azir game. What is your main so that I can look up your stats? The kind of dude who censors everyone in the team in the pic he shares here, you have no right to speak about my game.

QSS is unhealthy because it has no drawbacks and it can deny a champ's entire kit. Zhonya has a drawback of it being 2.5 sec long(useless for duration) and having 120 sec cd. Zhonyas has to be activated before any cc to work as well. QSS is a free escape card for adc making a mistake and didnt dodge the cc.

Zhonyas also doesnt invalidate champ's kit. But QSS invalidates AP's entire kit(like Lux, Ahri, morgana, etc).

jwebb0113Oct 7, 20171 votes

QSS does not invalidate and entire kit , it dont stop damage it only has 30 mr

and it has a longer cooldown then a cc spell so guess what with nearly all mages having 40-45 % cdr their cc would be up more often then the active of this item. and it only blocks one CC ability not all of them

AhrisOct 7, 20172 votes

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QSS does not invalidate and entire kit , it dont stop damage it only has 30 mr

and it has a longer cooldown then a cc spell so guess what with nearly all mages having 40-45 % cdr their cc would be up more often then the active of this item. and it only blocks one CC ability not all of them

Lux's entire kit revolves around her landing her snare, you qss it and you basically destroy her since rest is easily dodgeable(except maybe her e).

How long does it take for AD carry to 1v1 an apc who has no cc which is needed to land all their ability? Enough before the cc cd is up. Who is going to be hit again by a skill shot cc anyway?

jwebb0113Oct 7, 20171 votes

and lux's snare has how long of a cd when its max rank and she has 45% cdr ?

jwebb0113Oct 7, 20171 votes

lux Q is a root... it dont stop an adc from autoing or attacking at all... it just stops them from moving.

max rank has a 11 sec cd with out cdr. at 45 % cdr it has a 4.95 second cool down while QSS will always have a 90 sec cool down.

so you have the chance to use your ROOT as lux nearly 45 times by the time the the adc can re use QSS

AhrisOct 7, 20171 votes

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lux Q is a root... it dont stop an adc from autoing or attacking at all... it just stops them from moving.

max rank has a 11 sec cd with out cdr. at 45 % cdr it has a 4.95 second cool down while QSS will always have a 90 sec cool down.

so you have the chance to use your ROOT as lux nearly 45 times by the time the the adc can re use QSS

Yes, it is a root, but it is to ensure that she will land her e and r followup. Without it, it is close to impossible to land her kit.

in 5 secs can an ADC solo kill an APC? Pretty sure.

Also how likely is Lux going to be in your range, catch you with a snare when you do not have QSS up? You will always want to have QSS up when you are planning to go into danger zone where enemy can kill/cc you.

This is all about game knowledge, math cannot explain this.

jwebb0113Oct 8, 20171 votes

and lux would have what vs that adc?

item 3157 which gives her AP, CDR, ARMOR and the active to negate the adc if the adc happens to use the QSS on lux 's root cuz then you take no damage for 2.5 seconds... half of the cd of the Q so you have a good chance to land the next Q off cd after using zhonyas

just a lux isnt gonna just fight with out her cds either...

or maybe the adc blew thier QSS on the cc from the tank or support or other champ...

I MEAN ITS LIKE THE LUX PLAYER CANT PLAY AROUND IT AND USE GAME KNOWLEDGE BUT THE ADC CAN

UnboundHadesOct 8, 20171 votes

i know you need your daily dose of shit post but this is too far

SwiftKitten88Oct 8, 20171 votes

i play a grand total of ZERO champions that build qss its fine... i REALLY wish AP champions could built it and not waste an item slot. idk have it build into SOMETHING.

but riot's balance teams hates AP