why is support useless and boring

KlydeFrog··3 votes·3,699 views

why people hate support its boring to play however its the easiest thing to play, you get all the flak for losing and 0 credit for doing good and winning, force to supp dumb adcs who buy wrong and do crap damage exaple being rushing runaans or swift boots while they get bf sword and you get trashed in lane.........the list goes on

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Idols8 votes

"support is easy" ok pal

KlydeFrog3 votes

it is a monkey could play supp.....poeple just hate doing it becuase its boring and for reasons i pointed out

Mysticman892 votes

Monkeys play all roles though.

As with every role, the non-monkeys quickly climb.

OniZetsu6662 votes

If you build your champ right as with any game...it can be interesting..thing about supports are that they are not meant to sit in the back while the damage/tank ect. does just about everything while you will throw out some occasional utility and heals. Get your power and sustain up and destroy everything that you can. You cant always count on your teammates so hey why not make sure you can do well on your own and be god like with a partner. Supports are multi taskers and even the most easy ones need to learn how to multitask. Trust me I know I played ying for 10 months in paladins and reached Diamond rank with her for both ranked 1.0 and ranked 2.0 and she was one of the lowest rated champs (that was actualy played) to make it into higher levels. You can tell me that support isn't fun all you want and I will continue to play it, thrive and enjoy knowing that I helped my team. Hell there have been cases where I dominated playing support across multiple games. "Make your fun where you can".

KlydeFrog3 votes

There nothing fun about basically watching your friend play Farmville.....then pray tell why it's the most hated role ? I say boring and useless in game my team responds it's the most important role in the game among other things and I respond with then why do people get autofilled in it and why do I get it when I pick fill 98 % of the time anddddddd bam silience from them. Because it's fact if supp was so important as you say you would never autofill in it ever

OniZetsu6663 votes

Lol well thats other people not everyone has the patience to play support because it does require skill. Alot of times supports can lead the battle and often times they can secure your victory. And if you are just sitting there watching them farm someone then go to another lane and help where you are needed being as its easy for the other player at bottom to get their kills help middle or top who is struggling and help push in those areas.
Its just like people saying "supports just need to focus on healing/crowd control and utility and they shouldn't do any damage. I cant tell you in how many other games I see this and here I haven't been told once to stop killing something when I see it. Do your job and support not just one person, not just two people...but your whole team. Sure you cant be everywhere at once but if you have decent game sense when top is being pushed back and your bottom lane is doing perfectly fine help top with their issue help them take down a tower and then go back to your post. Also fun fact I about 97% of the time auto fill support because I love the role and I know how to play it incredibly well and I do that in just about every other game I play. Support mains are a rarity yes but that doesn't mean that we should be valued any less than anyone else on the team.

KlydeFrog2 votes

fun fact supports get blamed for losing and 0 credit for winning, how many times i was the reason my team had won and shocker 0 honors lol yah supp is soooo fun(sarcasm).it the easiest role to play i barely try and still get a s+. it requires patience because its boring

OniZetsu6661 votes

Your acting like supports getting blamed is something new. That's the support life and its normal. Not that I think it should be like this but it is normal. and I have gotten S quite a few times as support as well and ironically when I have I will get the most kills and assists on my team. I don't see that as much of an accomplishment since I am low level but I have played plenty of other games with the same results in much much higher levels. Also saying that it requires patience because its boring is kinda funny. If you are bored playing support then you aren't playing them right. I have said that in countless other games where people say the same thing.

KlydeFrog1 votes

no its the stupid ranked autofill type team builder. before in season 5 and other seasons it was draft and you got what you got and people dealt with it and i remember people choosing supp becasue they wanted to not because they have to like it is now and please dont say well stop picking fill then.....i shouldnt have to change but hey people refuse to play it> i say its boring and useless and they respond its not so much and so forth....i respond with welll then why does everyone hate doing it then and why do you get it 99% of the time when you get filled? annnnnddd silence. umm yes im playing it right i cant force adcs or other lanes to build right and get blamed because we lose because they build wrong....3 tanky champs and jinx my adc doesnt have blade of the ruined king nor lord dom and you wonder why we lose.....ohh wait jhin gets a triple to start and does he buy bf sword ...nope yah good job buy a dorans and swift boots while they buy bf sword and stomp you yah thats super cool. or the mid kass doesnt have ludens nor lich bane but hey gj for waisting time on void staff against a team who built 0 mr.......yah super cool rushing that deathcap. but why am i forced to play this boring position when people like this refuse to listen. and yes i play leo top because i can more or less beat most top laners and what does the supp pick ....diana and stated i never play supp and of course fed and we lost.......shocker it is the eaiest role to play because you dont have to cs and all you do is place wards among other things not a hard concept

OniZetsu6662 votes

There is your problem you are playing more so defense if your damage sucks then you can compensate. Thats the job of the support is it not? A support can compensate for a damage but a damage can never compensate for a support.

KlydeFrog1 votes

lol umm yah sure thing. then why is it i can 1v1 the adc with leo or ali if i do no damage .....i actually do more damage now becuase players do not pick resolve defense tree and with that have no mr so to speak. a supp cannot compensate for a stupid assss adc who builds wrong and inefficient...stop freaking rushing ie for starters.............bf sword beserker greaves is effiecient not rushing bf sword and such or better yet rushing attack speed....umm yah good thing u rushed runaans .......... damage can compensate happens all the time

zenkai45112 votes

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it is a monkey could play supp.....poeple just hate doing it becuase its boring and for reasons i pointed out

It’s easy to play when you do it wrong.

KlydeFrog3 votes

Lol yes because I get a s+ pretty much every game and have a lot of assist your right I'm playing it wrong lol

Athenes Lulu7 votes

me tank

me click 3 buttons in the same order

me skilled XD

######kappa

Frightning4 votes

People don't like playing support for the same reason they don't like playing tanks: they don't like feeling dependent (which most meta supports and tanks are very much dependent on teammates to be effective). No amount of being hard to kill and CCing people matters if you're allies don't supply the damage needed to exploit that. There also really isn't a solution to this situation that would be healthy for game balance at high level play. (ex: If you gave everyone damage, then you wouldn't be able to have high utility/tanky champs that aren't broken af). Playing damage dealers feels good because you can make individual (solo) plays and that makes it seem as though you have more agency over the outcome of the game (and to an extent, this can be true, particularly in low elo play).

KlydeFrog1 votes

No you can go top and play a tank but your doing something like csing and fighting someone and you don't have to worry about a adc who doesn't build right . Supp is boring and useless, it's only in the game for the same reason a jungle exist . Xp efficiency.

Kynin2 votes

Supports currently have the highest winrates in the game. Support is just as difficult as any other role.

KlydeFrog2 votes

It's not but okay . You don't cs and you pretty much place wards, you don't really have to worry about dueling anyone so there is that lol it's the easiest role to play

Zone of Endless1 votes

then don't play it? lol

It's in every single game out there where many don't enjoy playing support and league is no exception.

KlydeFrog1 votes

pray tell why do you refuse to play it ? in heroes and smite people actually choose to play it because in the draft and how it works and no one compl. league how ever doesnt work like that and with that i get autofilled in it every match hmm why is that why do i have to choose to play som,ehting ?

Zone of Endless1 votes

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pray tell why do you refuse to play it ? in heroes and smite people actually choose to play it because in the draft and how it works and no one compl. league how ever doesnt work like that and with that i get autofilled in it every match hmm why is that why do i have to choose to play som,ehting ?

I dont refuse to play it. I like playing support.

I have never played smite so I don't know how support work in Smite.

It's all about personal preference. I enjoy playing support but i dont enjoy playing top/jg. I like ranged champ but not melee. Support is boring because people think it's boring since they equate supporting to just heal/shield bot when you can play braum or thresh, blitz, etc.

KlydeFrog1 votes

umm supp is the same in smite heroes of the storm and this game minus people actually choose to play it in those games however not in this one. also dont lie with I like playing supp.....your match history says other wise...serouosly play nothing but supp for the next 40 matches and the talk to me how much you like playing supp

Zone of Endless1 votes

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umm supp is the same in smite heroes of the storm and this game minus people actually choose to play it in those games however not in this one. also dont lie with I like playing supp.....your match history says other wise...serouosly play nothing but supp for the next 40 matches and the talk to me how much you like playing supp

???

Are you seriously judging from AI games? Check season 3 to season 7 on what champ i play in ranked.

KlydeFrog1 votes

lol yep also you want to know why you got spanked as cait......essensce reaver trumps ie . cant pass up getting 40% cd with that item and the 10% from sorcer tree. which most adcs should be runnign because ultimate hat plus 40% cd makes it perfect fro ashe and varus or jhin if you want

Zone of Endless1 votes

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lol yep also you want to know why you got spanked as cait......essensce reaver trumps ie . cant pass up getting 40% cd with that item and the 10% from sorcer tree. which most adcs should be runnign because ultimate hat plus 40% cd makes it perfect fro ashe and varus or jhin if you want

Did you just op.gg my name and looked at the 1 preseason game on cait/varus on the front page and saw 0% winrate with zero context? How is this relevant to what we were talking about?

KlydeFrog1 votes

scrolling ur history and that stood out.....you would piss me off and i would leave lane hands down im not joking ill go top or mid and roam. you want to build in efficient and die like you did be my guest

Zone of Endless1 votes

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scrolling ur history and that stood out.....you would piss me off and i would leave lane hands down im not joking ill go top or mid and roam. you want to build in efficient and die like you did be my guest

cool beans

ZephyrDrake1 votes

so let me get this straight... you are playing Leona and Alistar... champions who engage and make plays yet you don't find that "fun"... so if you don't like that why don't play something like Sona Bard Zyra Brand Karma Lulu ? you know champions who don't need to wait for the right moment to do something and instead those who constantly poke the enemy or roam around the map and make plays elsewhere?

I don't understand, you aren't even good yet you are constantly telling others how to play the game and complaining about what others do. You are Bronze 1. Stop worrying about what your ADC or your team is doing and building. If you are that worried about what they are doing then tell them and if they don't listen to you then just ignore them. Focus on your play instead of what your team is doing, attempt to guide them if you are that much better than them (you must be if you are constantly complaining about what they are doing... even though you tried building a support item on your Azir for whatever reason)

KlydeFrog1 votes

lets see when most of the time and i mean most of the time we A have 0 tanks and B have 0 cc so yah im forced to play these 2 people because they ignore cs enage. also please play those people agaisnt me i pray supps liek that are on the enemy team. Ohh i always ban morg and i mean always because she is one of the strongest champs that goes supp if not the strongest. the azir was a accident and i just went with it, my mid wanted to trade and i come to find out he didnt have leo nor ali so what eves. i know how to play supp i know how to play this game its logic they have 3 tanks and the adc has 0 item to counter it but hey gj for getting blood thirster. so i typically leave lane and go to other ones becuase im not dealing with that crap ever. as i said i do great in pretty much everysingle match and lose hmmm why is that ?

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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lets see when most of the time and i mean most of the time we A have 0 tanks and B have 0 cc so yah im forced to play these 2 people because they ignore cs enage. also please play those people agaisnt me i pray supps liek that are on the enemy team. Ohh i always ban morg and i mean always because she is one of the strongest champs that goes supp if not the strongest. the azir was a accident and i just went with it, my mid wanted to trade and i come to find out he didnt have leo nor ali so what eves. i know how to play supp i know how to play this game its logic they have 3 tanks and the adc has 0 item to counter it but hey gj for getting blood thirster. so i typically leave lane and go to other ones becuase im not dealing with that crap ever. as i said i do great in pretty much everysingle match and lose hmmm why is that ?

you are bronze. You aren't forced to play anything. You can play whatever you want. Stop making excuses. You don't like a certain playstyle then simple put don't play it. Don't come here complaining about how "supports are bad and useless" if it was so useless as you say it is then whatever you pick shouldn't have ANY impact whatsoever but apparently it does have some impact if you are feeling "forced" to play those champions.

You do great in every single match oh noes! another dude who thinks KDA means anything. Also every single match? you went 0/9 on your Azir game. You mostly lose any game where you aren't a support. You suck at pretty much every single other role yet you are constantly complaining about the one role where you do well is "useless and boring" yet you do NOTHING at all to change that. Sorry to say this but it's on you to improve and how to play the game not because your team needs something. You don't like playing something? then you don't play that something. You change. Why don't you go to the top lane? why don't you get good at the jungle? why don't you do something instead of complaining about a role when you pretty much do nothing but play that role.

It's on you to change, it's on you to improve, it's on you to decide what the hell you want to play. Stop making excuses and do it.

KlydeFrog1 votes

as i said person wanted me to trade and he however did not have the 2 people i only play supp with so ya. lso i go leo top becuase she trucks on my top laners. lol typical respinse i do nothign to change it....lol pray tell then why do i have to do anything? as i said smite and heroes of the storm people actually choose to play it. heck in other seasons when it was a draft once again people choose to play it. now people can get out of it. why did they change the system when it was fine aleady.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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as i said person wanted me to trade and he however did not have the 2 people i only play supp with so ya. lso i go leo top becuase she trucks on my top laners. lol typical respinse i do nothign to change it....lol pray tell then why do i have to do anything? as i said smite and heroes of the storm people actually choose to play it. heck in other seasons when it was a draft once again people choose to play it. now people can get out of it. why did they change the system when it was fine aleady.

excuses, after excuses, and even more excuses. That is all i see here. You don't want to pick champions you find "fun" or roles you find "fun" that's on you. You don't get to say things like "support is useless" you don't get to complain when you don't even attempt. There are so many other champions you could be playing yet you keep using the excuse of "i'm forced" and "we would have no CC". From everything i see you play, you mainly play tanks yet hate playing the role... guess what? stop playing tanks.

Don't come here making a billion excuses about you not wanting to play tanks and not all these other things. I don't give a damn about what Smite or Heroes or Dota or any other Moba does. This is not any of those, this is League you don't like how things are done here you can leave. Or you can adapt and stop playing things you don't like. Nobody is forcing you to play anything. Nobody has any right to tell you what to play. You can play whatever the hell you want, in any role you wish... as long as you actually try and don't intend to troll.

KlydeFrog1 votes

lets see when most of the time and i mean most of the time we A have 0 tanks and B have 0 cc so yah im forced to play these 2 people because they ignore cs enage. also please play those people agaisnt me i pray supps liek that are on the enemy team. Ohh i always ban morg and i mean always because she is one of the strongest champs that goes supp if not the strongest. the azir was a accident and i just went with it, my mid wanted to trade and i come to find out he didnt have leo nor ali so what eves. i know how to play supp i know how to play this game its logic they have 3 tanks and the adc has 0 item to counter it but hey gj for getting blood thirster. so i typically leave lane and go to other ones because im not dealing with that crap ever. as i said i do great in pretty much everysingle match and lose hmmm why is that ? also now that i think of it i get pissed when people A ping me nonstop rigth when the match starts and B. calls me a noob for not building face of the mountain on ali ........and i hate ez adc with a passion as well as twitch becuase the items i get do not sync with them at all. Knights vow and zekes

Mαgie1 votes

I remember having a game as Orianna mid with Sion support that had Kai'Sa ADC. When she started dying a lot in the mid game when he started taking her kills intentionally and leaving the lane for no reason, he said 'go main supp usless' - his literal words at about fifteen minutes.

And just by that, I know that guy won't leave bronze or silver anytime soon. Every role exists for a reason, and his, as a support, is to babysit the ADC and then entire team when it comes to the mid and late game. To be honest, I believe he either never counted or never realized how many times some supports he played with saved him.

If you play support right, it can save your teammates with abilities or right-placed wards or give them kills they would never get otherwise. However, if you want it to be fun, it depends on what champions you play when you play support. If you play tanky champions, like Leona, Alistar or maybe Taric, you need to be in front of your ADC most of the time because you are tanky, so if they get targeted, it's better for you to lose a little bit of your health than your ADC losing a chunk of it. So yeah, you don't really do anything besides farming with your Relic, watching out for your ADC and ganks. Oh wait, that actually takes focus!

As for mage supports like Janna, Karma, Nami, Lulu itd, then your job is to harass and shield, so if want to spice it up a little early game, I suggest you try out champions that fall under this category. Bard is a hybrid of a tank and mage, so as much as you can poke the enemy laners, you can take much more damage early that someone like Soraka or Sona. In this category, I personally enjoy Nami and Lux(and yes, I know Lux isn't really a support, but whatever, she's fun) very much, because I know how much enemy can tilt there, hehe.

So, for anyone who goes around saying support is easy or useless or shouldn't exist, you try playing a support listed champion with a bunch of kids telling you what to do even though they don't know what to do themselves. Two words - suicidal Vaynes.

And for anyone who says support is boring, just try different champs and see for yourself. If you still see it as boring or useless, then don't play it. Simple as that.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Supp is easy to play here is the thing I can't make people build right I can't force people to follow up. The list goes on, so I play shen alot to counter on the follow up because being able to ult team to save them is great . Also I do not like to save adcs who do not listen to pings meaning jungler is there or something like that and or who chase under turret . Also what is most irritating is say adc gets a double and then gets zeal while say the enemy gets bf sword and such adc wonders why they lose lane......or again gets zeal

Mαgie1 votes

gets a flashback of Aphromoo's 'Support is so easy dude'

Uhh, shivers. Anyway, I understand what you're saying. But remember - even though support seems easy, it's actually hard not to feed when your teammates are straight ahead rushing in without listening to your pings of mana loss or cooldowns. It also depends on what champion you play as a support, so engagers like Shen and Leona can be pretty game-deciding without much effort to play, but someone like Bard can be extremely more useful if played right, however, it's hard to master champions like that. It's worth a try though.

But yeah, if your teammates are using even a bit of their brain, especially your ADC, and if you're not first-timing that certain support at the time, you should be good to go. However, if you see that many ADCs or junglers in your games just aren't paying attention, I suggest going their roles in your next game.

However, let me correct you on 'supp's easy'. A good support can be game-changing. One right Janna ult in a team fight could win you a game, so I wouldn't call that useless and especially not easy since you need to time it just right, similar to how to Baron Steal with Smite and whatnot. The rank 1 Challenger in Korea(I think) mains support and that wouldn't be possible if his role was 'useless'.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

If you only pick one-dimensional engage supports I wouldn't expect you to know what supporting truly means. If you think it's boring...try something else.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Ohh I Know what supp means there guy it's called no one wants to play a tank engage person . It is boring why on Earth do you think it's the most disliked role. 0 credit for anything and always get blamed for losing hmmmmm

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Idk why you never get credit, but the only thing that matters is winning. Why would you care about getting credit from a bunch of toxic players? It's worthless.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Well when said players get triple and or quad kills nonstop and team is like beast player and literally the only reason they didn't die was because of my shen ult and yes they are the same players and team that says I'm trolling lol getting protobelt .

Leaf on Bush1 votes

It doesn't matter which role you play, this can always happen.

What if you play top and you get camped, yet still survive with only 1 death and enough cs, while the jungler wins bot and gets dragons. If your ADC dies once to the other top laner he will blame you for being "bad". This happens so often. xD

I actually started giving tilit-proof to any lane that got a lot of pressure and still didn't give up, usually that's top. A lot of junglers literally ignore top, which is kinda sad because its not that hard to gank.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Sadly it's always the supp fault

Leaf on Bush1 votes

People also like to pick on players that disagree and criticize a lot.

If you say a few times, "we should have" or "you should have done this and that because [reason]". Then you will be the target for flames and blames if anything goes wrong.

Like your team ignores your pings and your calls and then you call them out on it and why it was really bad. Then they shit on your logic and call you a troll in all chat with "report x9".

This happens because they didn't have the awareness for the situation and also because of shitty attitudes. These players will only give credit for easy stomps where 1 dude happened to have the most kills or most damage done. But when you have to earn victory the hard way they are more likely to tilt each other and you won't get credit for anything. lul

No awareness = no honor given For example if you heal a lot as Soraka there will be key moments, where they think, damn this Soraka is OP because I didn't die, so you catch their attention even though you are just doing your job and your opponents were too inexperienced to buy grievous wounds. So yea selfish reasons to honor a healer.

I think only challenger players are really consistently sportsmanlike, as opposed to bronze which is probably hell.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Bronze players are dumb, sadly I'm still in low elo and have been playing since season 3 lol. But people refuse to listen like this makz bought void staff and had CD boots for whatever reason and deathcap...... I'm like why did you buy void staff against a team who has like 0 mr.....but refused to listen. Or people with the crap bans like low elo always ban Yas, brand, and morg. Morg is always banned when I supp and brand is always banned when I jungle. And if they both get banned I ban trist

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Pointing out mistakes that are obvious (or at least should be obvious) will always make you the enemy of everyone on your team. Better accept that they are bad and figure out how to win.

You have to be really careful, some players start throwing just because you disagreed with their items once.

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