We need deatfire grasp back in the game if assasin are allowed to have duskblade .

LOSINGISMYPRIDE··15 votes·813 views

I explain . item 3147 - Teemo =No more booty hole .

Without joking the item has is place in the game right now because i feel the mage are way too behind now and are only mid game champ at their best . They get heavily counter by tank in the late game and get one shotted by any focusing in team fight unless youre way ahead . Even brand who was a counter against tank is irrelevant without putting a good ult in teamfight but any item like item 3190 counter him hard and it goes for every champion who has the ability to make your teammate survive negate all damage from a combo or a all-in . Why do you think the only best mage has low cooldown ? Because of the spammability of their kit . It become irrelevant to play mage if you cant one shot someone in the late game .

This is why i think deathfire grasp need his place in the game and think its a bad idea that they removed it with dat much change . They could have simply reworked the item like they did with duskblade but no let remove it .

17 Comments

ReySolomon3 votes

They just need to make ap items broken like AD and tank items :D

real talk though we only have item 3135 item 3151 item 3020 to even do something to the tanks or AD champs but I find sorc to be useless since it only gives 15 MP zz.

MrHaZeYo5 votes

Lol what, if they don't bur any Mr then sorc shoes and hunting guise with runes result in true damage

ReySolomon1 votes

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Lol what, if they don't bur any Mr then sorc shoes and hunting guise with runes result in true damage

I spam vlad so buying mercs/ninja tabis r a must most of the time zz..

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Fair enough for that situation

MrHaZeYo3 votes

God I would love if dfg was back, although hextech gunblade is kinda closr

DunkinNoobs3 votes

AP assassins are bursting people just fine without it.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

yeah cause the proc of item 3146 > item 3147 proc... but on this board AP user are cry baby pro

AmazoX3 votes

Keep saying that even though Syndra and Orianna are still god-tier at mid lane.

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

Deathfire grasp was one of the most fundamentally flawed items to ever exist in this game. Even if they reworked it, as long as it has the same fundamental function as old DFG, it will never be balanced. Doing %Health damage to your opponent with the active just by itself is good, but getting a huge damage increase against the target as well was just stupid. Leblanc, Syndra, and friends could 100-0 everyone in the game after they bought that item faster than old, old Rengar even tanks.

It become irrelevant to play mage if you cant one shot someone in the late game .

This argument works the same way for Assassins too and to a much greater degree. Mages have it much easier than Assassins at doing their job later on in the game because of their safety and ability to spam their abilities. I don't understand how people can think that mages are weak when they've dominated mid lane since Season 4 and only fall out of favor for a patch or two every season.

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Middle

Out of the top 20 winrates in mid, 17 of those are mages (18 if you don't count Diana as an Assassin). They are by no means weak.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

I don't understand how people can think that mages are weak when they've dominated mid lane since Season 4 and only fall out of favor for a patch or two every season.

Cause most here are silverino and under... And don't know how to lane. They don't respect safety distance.

Edge of Daybreak2 votes

Meanwhile riot keks because they know ap mages have been stronger than assassins for years and just had to nerf multiple mages so we maybe have a chance of pros even touching anything else. But please do continue.

RacoonHunter2 votes

They need to put a damn cooldown on the bonus damage from duskblade and lower it a bit. It's stupid how many times people can proc the extra damage in a fight..

Arsenic Sulfur2 votes

And bring back when burst mages/AP assassins were the only good midlaners because not being able to use the item to it's fullest simply made you inferior? Hahah, no. It'd also render Luden's Echo redundant as that was made as a replacement.

LOSINGISMYPRIDE1 votes

Yeah they only gave to mage mana item and some bruiser mage item that it . Nothing bursty . They also destroyed abyssal scepter and remove will of the ancient too .

Chief Mayonnaise1 votes

What if we didn't have duskblade or dfg? Especially since most ap assassins who want something like that take item 3146 instead?

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

We need deatfire grasp back

No, u don't.

For AP assassins item 3146 is enough.

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