Garen's Q is broken

LordSouls·Sep 3, 2016·1 votes·881 views

Garen's Q break outta all slowness and get more speed but all someone need to do is slow him down while he using his Q and he will be fucking super slow

6 Comments

Fuh QueueSep 3, 20164 votes

A juggernaut that's easy to kite? Wow what a revelation.

SejeoSep 3, 20161 votes

Tbh i dont care about his stupid dmg on Q its the villian mark +ult doing 40% of my hp instantly.

AvienalSep 3, 20161 votes

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Tbh i dont care about his stupid dmg on Q its the villian mark +ult doing 40% of my hp instantly.

Garen's Ultimate is suppose to act as a anti-type measure against enemy champions doing too well. At the very least he can't 'control' where the mark goes unlike other juggernauts like Darius whose passive gives him a good true damage bleed with AD scaling, a short burst of AD damage at 5 stacks, plenty of crowd snatch up and smacking attacks and escape denial on top of passive armor pen (Q, W and E). Not to mention Darius's ultimate deals true damage right off the bat, twice on fully hemmorage's targets can be casted in chain multiple times and turn into a plain snowball penta or just plain obliterates half the enemy team at least.

Garen's ultimate on the other hand requires the target to usually have substantial 'missing health' (28.6% of it at rank 1, 40% at rank 3). Meaning a enemy champion at least has 2 signs (The Villian mark for one thing and the size of a low health bar on themselves to be the standard get outta here or your gonna get executed), to get out before its too late with trading with a Garen while marked. If it wasn't for the fact his E spin and autos get 1% max hp bonus hits of true damage on the 'Villian' and the fact it resets every 5 minutes when he isn't in battle with the 'Villian', then the active itself on Garen's ultimate would be more of a Assassin execute instead.

At the very least his 'ultimate' is limited to just one target unless the whole enemy team is together then he can make use of it changing targets once the villian is 'defeated' (Or was it when another enemy champion has more 'kills' when the villian is killed that it changes?), then if it functions how i believe it does, then Garen could make use of it to rotate between targets with high kill scores in a team fight to true damage auto and E spin them like crazy. Still a'lot less do'able then Illaoi or Darius's ultimate especially when you include people pulling ridiculously dirty tactics such as stacking on top o each other to make it impossible to 'click' the low hp enemy target, because of silly differing 'click' boxes.

Very least Garen's passive and his W operates under the kit of playing like a juggernaut, being actually 'beefie' and not a good idea to straight up trade with because he is beefie by nature not by itemization and not have some silly free heal exploit measure in trades like Darius's missing hp recovery per champion hit by his Q's blade or Illaoi's 5% hp recovery when hitting targets with her Q, passive's tentacles or her R's tentacles.

So in that regard 'half' his kit works more defensively so he isn't loaded with 4 to 5 abilities 'offensive' abilites that allow champions like Xin'Zhao, Darius, Illaoi, Ekko, etc. be so snowball'ie due to having passive/active hybrid abilities. He can be a hard champion to go against due to his simple play style of being a 'true' juggernaut in my eyes then more of a aggressive 'doesn't give a fk' fighter like Darius and Illaoi. But it does not make him viable when there's plenty of other champions who can screw with him via CC, slow harass and other measures to keep him constantly away by being plain 'jerk' sort of champions who can especially constantly poke him to keep him from using his passive to regain health and they have even more silly sustain measures to keep doing so(whether its low costs that never got re'tuned, sustain measures, plain cost'less also, etc).

[slayer-jinx-catface]

So don't hate Garen, hate the fact that plenty of other champions exist to where 'starter' champions like Garen have to get some potent abilities or are in desperate need to get such things eventually to even have a chance against the scummy roster of champions that are still in the 4800 and 6300 ip cost brackets even though they have already been out for so many months, especially when several of them should of been lowered in ip cost to the 3150 and 4800 brackets.

SejeoSep 3, 20161 votes

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Garen's Ultimate is suppose to act as a anti-type measure against enemy champions doing too well. At the very least he can't 'control' where the mark goes unlike other juggernauts like Darius whose passive gives him a good true damage bleed with AD scaling, a short burst of AD damage at 5 stacks, plenty of crowd snatch up and smacking attacks and escape denial on top of passive armor pen (Q, W and E). Not to mention Darius's ultimate deals true damage right off the bat, twice on fully hemmorage's targets can be casted in chain multiple times and turn into a plain snowball penta or just plain obliterates half the enemy team at least.

Garen's ultimate on the other hand requires the target to usually have substantial 'missing health' (28.6% of it at rank 1, 40% at rank 3). Meaning a enemy champion at least has 2 signs (The Villian mark for one thing and the size of a low health bar on themselves to be the standard get outta here or your gonna get executed), to get out before its too late with trading with a Garen while marked. If it wasn't for the fact his E spin and autos get 1% max hp bonus hits of true damage on the 'Villian' and the fact it resets every 5 minutes when he isn't in battle with the 'Villian', then the active itself on Garen's ultimate would be more of a Assassin execute instead.

At the very least his 'ultimate' is limited to just one target unless the whole enemy team is together then he can make use of it changing targets once the villian is 'defeated' (Or was it when another enemy champion has more 'kills' when the villian is killed that it changes?), then if it functions how i believe it does, then Garen could make use of it to rotate between targets with high kill scores in a team fight to true damage auto and E spin them like crazy. Still a'lot less do'able then Illaoi or Darius's ultimate especially when you include people pulling ridiculously dirty tactics such as stacking on top o each other to make it impossible to 'click' the low hp enemy target, because of silly differing 'click' boxes.

Very least Garen's passive and his W operates under the kit of playing like a juggernaut, being actually 'beefie' and not a good idea to straight up trade with because he is beefie by nature not by itemization and not have some silly free heal exploit measure in trades like Darius's missing hp recovery per champion hit by his Q's blade or Illaoi's 5% hp recovery when hitting targets with her Q, passive's tentacles or her R's tentacles.

So in that regard 'half' his kit works more defensively so he isn't loaded with 4 to 5 abilities 'offensive' abilites that allow champions like Xin'Zhao, Darius, Illaoi, Ekko, etc. be so snowball'ie due to having passive/active hybrid abilities. He can be a hard champion to go against due to his simple play style of being a 'true' juggernaut in my eyes then more of a aggressive 'doesn't give a fk' fighter like Darius and Illaoi. But it does not make him viable when there's plenty of other champions who can screw with him via CC, slow harass and other measures to keep him constantly away by being plain 'jerk' sort of champions who can especially constantly poke him to keep him from using his passive to regain health and they have even more silly sustain measures to keep doing so(whether its low costs that never got re'tuned, sustain measures, plain cost'less also, etc).

[slayer-jinx-catface]

So don't hate Garen, hate the fact that plenty of other champions exist to where 'starter' champions like Garen have to get some potent abilities or are in desperate need to get such things eventually to even have a chance against the scummy roster of champions that are still in the 4800 and 6300 ip cost brackets even though they have already been out for so many months, especially when several of them should of been lowered in ip cost to the 3150 and 4800 brackets.

But with darius he has to fight you for a good 10 seconds for you to be screwed and land skill shots meanwhile garen just Q,E,R btw i have mastery 5 garen and also have played the match up yasuo vs garen and yasuo vs darius and darius is by far the easyer one to defeat.

LordSoulsSep 3, 20161 votes

I was talking about his Q speed boost but ok

LordSoulsSep 3, 20161 votes

I wasn't talking about his dmg I was talking about his Q speed and garen's ult is a last hit move