Draven Needs A Nerf To His Damage

Jayce Top·May 31, 2017·74 votes·7,489 views

I had Randuins, I had Tabis, yet draven does 600 damage an auto still? Nerf this shit hole already.

79 Comments

PhDs NutsMay 31, 201720 votes

Draven Janna

Have fun in lane. You're getting three-shot after his first back. If you hadn't killed him once by then, the game is pretty much over.

Pater GascoigneMay 31, 20175 votes

just happened to me today, it's not fun

VallalanJun 1, 20171 votes

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Have fun in lane. You're getting three-shot after his first back. If you hadn't killed him once by then, the game is pretty much over.

first back? calm down. I hate draven just as much as the next guy but you are not dying in 3 axes. you are dying fast, but not that fast.

what makes draven oppressive is that he scales way too hard damage wise AND has sustain to back it up making him nearly impossible to deal with without ganks or straight out ranging him.

I personally think the easiest nerf to draven is to make his axes not scale with life steal. he gets lifesteal from his raw ad only. this would make draven either go Crit builds for big dick damage like he does now when snowballing or go BT/Death's dance if he wants to stay safer.

right now he is building death's dance first with tabi/ga later which means you straight up can't fight him.

wei270Aug 8, 20171 votes

with a janna and his max q yes most adcs dies in 3 hit as long as he has bfs

Fisher No ChainsMay 31, 201715 votes

Buffing Draven and then Death's Dance was a huge mistake.

Though I think the main problem is that DD mitigates a lot of damage just because building lifesteal on Draven is insane... I mean, with BT and DD he can heal for something like 200 for each empowered AA, which means that the 30% bleed damage is almost non-existent.

PePsiLemoNNMay 31, 201712 votes

item 3812 .

Draven is good cause of this item. If he gets nerfed directly he'll probably be shit with any other build.

DracocrashMay 31, 20172 votes

ur face is good

ParvatiShallowJun 1, 20171 votes

Cut the bleed% in half for ranged or just make it melee only. Draven is the main abuser I don't think it is broken for others or is it?

JoxcabJun 1, 20171 votes

It makes champions like Fiora and Riven stronger when they were already perfectly balanced. Just revert the buffs.

ParvatiShallowJun 1, 20171 votes

agreed the item is 115% efficient without the bleed, which just got doubled. It made no sense to first add 5 ad AND throw in 30% bleed. I think they overbuffed it.

darkmatchwaldoJun 1, 20171 votes

then in classic rito form they nerf item 3812 and leave draven useless.

Jayce TopJun 1, 20171 votes

The Draven in my game didnt have deaths dance, but yes that item makes him broken even more.

Ah O Yeah HarderMay 31, 201711 votes

If the enemy has a Draven, we always lose. I just ban him, and if they pick him I dodge. Its honestly the most stupid overpowered adc in the game. Yet people say hes hard to play somehow.

undesirable teamMay 31, 201710 votes

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If the enemy has a Draven, we always lose. I just ban him, and if they pick him I dodge. Its honestly the most stupid overpowered adc in the game. Yet people say hes hard to play somehow.

its the build item 3812 item 3087 makes him braindead, you don't have to catch axes nerf , makes too many champions too tanky xd

FaieMay 31, 20175 votes

If you don't catch axes it doesn't matter what build you go, you're useless on draven.

ArdunoMay 31, 20175 votes

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its the build makes him braindead, you don't have to catch axes nerf , makes too many champions too tanky xd

This You almost never saw a draven before they buffed item 3812 now you do

ShadowParkerMay 31, 20178 votes

He is hard to play lmao. He has a HUGE mastery curve. Definately one of the hardest of the adc's.

Ah O Yeah HarderMay 31, 20176 votes

The only thing hard about him is learning to catch his axes. Which you can learn in 30 minutes in practice mode.

Mody birdMay 31, 20179 votes

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The only thing hard about him is learning to catch his axes. Which you can learn in 30 minutes in practice mode.

go play him for 3 games and report back to me

Ah O Yeah HarderMay 31, 20176 votes

I did, the first game I have ever played as Draven I went 14/7/8 5 days ago. Then the other 2 games I built all tears and ran it down mid because our top/jg/support was feeding.

Troll for TrumpJun 1, 20172 votes

Tyler1?

yesnobananaJun 1, 20172 votes

Tyler2

HeresyHorusJun 1, 20173 votes

Right now Draven doesn't need to juggle the fabled 3 Axes hard fantasy, all he needs is just 1 empowered auto against squishies and its done.

also a champ being hard doesn't justify him being op, if thats true than lets make Anivia Q deal 9999 true damage when she double proc it just because its hard.

Azir got gutted despite him being 10x harder than Draven or any ADC.

Jaygo41Jun 1, 20171 votes

This is classic whataboutism. Azir completely bent the competitive meta in his direction when he was good and in the right hands was BEYOND broken. Not a good analogy.

MrSaletMay 31, 201710 votes

He mostly needs the nerf in his Q, thats the major problem in my opinion.

Mody birdMay 31, 20178 votes

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IPromiseTomorrowMay 31, 20177 votes

Yea. He's fed that's not op that's just what happened in game. -To Op

Jayce TopJun 1, 20171 votes

What Draven doesnt get fed? I have yet to see one not have at least 10 kills at the 15-20 minute mark.

IPromiseTomorrowJun 1, 20171 votes

I've had 2 draven go 0/7 On my and enemy team It's not the champ it's the games played on league Any thing from Non meta to Yasuo mod will win. Look at challenger games Qt once won a game with urgot and it was hilarious.

Arya StarckMay 31, 20175 votes

due to him building death's dance and phantom dancer, he is unkillable, heals and deals a metric tonne of damage, nerf/edit these items instead IMO!

Asayake 5150glowMay 31, 20174 votes

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I had Randuins, I had Tabis, I had black cleaver, yet draven does 600 damage an auto still? Nerf this shit hole already.

What does Cleaver have anything to do with anything tho 0_0

It's not like he builds Bork.

MelledoneusJun 1, 20171 votes

HP makes it harder for carries to kill you.

Skins ProjectJun 1, 20171 votes

But it wouldn't decrease dmg in 1 hit doe...

Asayake 5150glowJun 1, 20171 votes

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HP makes it harder for carries to kill you.

He only mentioned the damage per auto, HP doesn't affect that.

MelledoneusJun 1, 20171 votes

It should if Draven had LDR.

Jayce TopJun 1, 20171 votes

I was tired when i made the post, and was just putting the items I had. I removed it from my post though beens everyone keeps asking

Carl Grimes TWD1Jun 1, 20174 votes

21-5 Full build Draven vs 2 item Jayce (Cleaver not even finished). Piss off, thx.

TheGrotMay 31, 20173 votes

Deathdance is what made him OP. Just saying

SweedishGunnerJun 1, 20173 votes

Draven is fucking broken right now with item 3812 item 3046 and any other combination of items.

Honestly DD was fine, I don't understand the buff at all.

SirTeemoMushroomMay 31, 20172 votes

wait a minute ... i am making those kind of posts that draven is super strong for a weak .. and everyone trash talks me ... na people just hate everyone who's not in NA , trump affects people i guess

BladeƒireMay 31, 20177 votes

lol what? you bring trump into a topic that isn't even relevant? NA doesn't hate everyone not in NA. You probably formulated sentences wrong and people thought you meant something else. The guy posting this doesn't even have that many upvotes

SirTeemoMushroomJun 1, 20171 votes

no... just when you say caitlyn (b4 nerf) was op etc... adc mains dislike your post .. that's how boards work anyway