I am fucking fed up with your ham fisted approach to buffing and nerfing champs he was fucking fine and yall fucked him. Learn to fucking balance properly or you will kill the game you are trying to "fix". This is the shit that got people to leave Dota don't make the same mistakes just a friendly heads up.
The Ecdysiast3 votesThey gave him 4 massive buffs to compensate for one nerf that should've always been how the ability functioned in the first place.
If you think he was fine, you don't know anything about balance.
Scelestusa1 votesOkay what 4 buffs are you talking about they cut his spit range for allies (400 to 250 ) now sup kench is dead . The new thing should have always been there and makes no difference if your teammate know better. The min. before barfing them back up doesn't count for shit tho cuz the range was killed and they will just hop on who ever you are trying to save. The w dmg change was nice but they need to tweak the numbers a bit they hit the base to hard. I know my kench and this is totally ham fisted.
Tahminatrix 1 votesYou mean a string of nerfs, idk about you but I used to love eating teammates and using the speed buff to chase enemies, riot took that away because sometimes it would speed him up when he wasn't really running towards an enemy champion.
Which makes it seem a lot more like they just needed to reduce the cone angle for when it would check if he was facing an enemy or not.
They also made it so allies cant click his R in combat so he doesn't use it as a second devour....but now I cant use it to catch enemies who are running away, me and a teammate will just sit there stupidly waiting for them to be out of combat.
Now tahm`s ult is only good for rotating defensively to protect towers since he has no innate waveclear or way to quickly damage turrets ( his passive doesn't stack on minions and turrets)
TBH they should have just made him back into a scaling champion so he doesn't lanebully so hard, his kit is literally designed for a weak champion that just wants to buy time but now that the damage is there for free so its just incredibly oppressive.
The Ecdysiast1 votesSo, like I said, all they did was fix functions that should never have been used like that in the first place and gave him a ton of other buffs in exchange.
That'd be like if they buffed the base stats and CC durations of every top laner just because they removed the ability to cancel TP.
Tahminatrix 1 votesChanging a summoner spell (other than flash) does not equal changing a fundamental part of a champion`s core kit. (Because riot has admitted to balancing the game around flash)
Both things that they "fixed" involved gutting functions that were WORKING AS INTENDED, such as actually running towards enemies with allies in your belly or using R when your ally is not in danger (but is in false combat), riot did not want to remove both of these, but due to the loss of both of these functions they had to compensate tahm kench.
There is no "like I said" you are ignoring INTENDED USES being removed.
The Ecdysiast1 votesUm, no, you can't just leave flash out because it's the strongest example that proves you wrong.
Tahminatrix 1 votesSo you ignore my core argument and react to my comment about your failed sidetrack. Infact you are still dodging my arguments from my first post so I think we are done here ^_^
And yes, I can leave out flash because all you were on about was "teleport" if you are gonna try to mislead, then you better put some effort into it.
Flash has nothing to do with you "proving me wrong" all you did was make a silly comparison that does not prove what side is wrong and what side is right.
And even then, flash is a summoner spell that any champion can have access too while a core kit is a part of a specific champion.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
The Ecdysiast1 votesRight, you're clearly wrong and don't know anything about balance, especially seeing as you're complaining about Kench nerfs that as of yet have not dropped his performance. So... congrats.
Maybe don't be so obviously biased, with a name like Tahminatrix.
Tahminatrix 1 votesSo you say I`m clearly wrong without countering my arguments?
Those nerfs DID drop his performance and riot had to find a way to compensate him for them? Didn't you see his winrate slowly drop over the patches?
Now you bring bias into it when I was against them buffing him like this in the first place? Do you even read? I clearly said they needed to turn him back into a late game champion if they were gonna make him back into a solo laner.
The only obviously biased person here is you.
Ignoring arguments: check.
Trying to sidetrack to avoid those arguements: check.
Giving false information: check.
We are done here, you failed to mislead, goodbye.
Jamaree2 votesEveryone and their mother was complaining about Tahm is why(personally didn’t see it, but maybe mains counter him so that is probably why.)
taleofsonata1 votesEveryone and their mother was complaining about Tahm is why(personally didn’t see it, but maybe mains counter him so that is probably why.)
Tahm Support is horrid, thats his primary role its the lowest winrate support. His off role top laner is doing much better than his support. Riot is only nerfing Tahm support and not nerfing tahm top.
manolis2011 votesYe he was fine only that he was doing a penta kill with attack speed runes and no tanky items just half tank item and still being tanky and unkillable when my team was fed and he wasnt...(did i mention he is a support?!)