If Aatrox's scaling wasn't absolute rubbish (compared to other tops) he would be a viable pick,

MatthewRT2·Dec 15, 2016·8 votes·1,068 views

The mixing of AP and AD on his skills puts him in a weird position, why not just give him pure ad scaling and instead of scaling off of bonus ad give him scaling from total ad.

If all of his scaling was changed to ad he wouldn't be the first champ that has a magic damaging move that scales with ad, yes i know that riot doesnt want "His" type of champion buffed but he is fun to play and has some #LCSBigPlays potentioal with the q,e combo.

I'm not sure if he is getting a rework anytime soon because if im not mistaken WW wand Urgot are the two up next

26 Comments

TheorcheroDec 15, 20162 votes

One of the reasons Lee has been gutted in the past (yet still somehow manages to rise up again) was because his E scales with AD and deals magic damage. Add that with the attack speed and ms slows it had meant that he was just impossible to fight.

Riot really doesn't want to repeat that.

AazzlanoDec 16, 20161 votes

Lee has never been gutted lol his nerfs are tiny compared to champions that actually get gutted.

TheorcheroDec 16, 20162 votes

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Lee has never been gutted lol his nerfs are tiny compared to champions that actually get gutted.

They removed his attack speed slow and nerfed the ms slow, reduced energy regeneration, shield amount, shield cd, sustain, q damage, ult damage, and his base stats.

They'ved nerfed the shit out of lee. But he's Lee so he's still strong lmao

AazzlanoDec 16, 20161 votes

That's not gutting, he was overloaded, it's just trimming excess power. And it's not like that only happened in 1 patch lmfao.

Zero Skill TankDec 15, 20162 votes

Sad truth: nobody who doesn't play Aatrox wants him to be a viable pick. He is one of the worst designed champions ever - which Riot realised immediately after his release - and also one of the easiest to play, meaning that if he ever gets viable he can single-handedly turn meta to shit.

SlythionDec 15, 20162 votes

Aatrox has fundamental problems with his kit and atrocious itemization, he needs a full-scale rework to be saved

and fix his damn lore already Riot...

Ruin LanceDec 15, 20162 votes

most people already know that aatrox can be viable. but making him viable makes him broken.

the nature of aatrox's kit is that it can never be balanced. it will always be too weak or too strong.

Lord MalpercioDec 15, 20161 votes

We don't let Aatrox be viable.

If Shaco isn't allowed to be, that monstrosity certainly isn't

Urgot x BDSMDec 15, 20162 votes

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=ranked So I guess top1 winrate in ranked means champ is not viable now?

Lord MalpercioDec 15, 20161 votes

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http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=ranked So I guess top1 winrate in ranked means champ is not viable now?

Beats out the others by 1%, and it's only been a week, and it was responded to with obscene nerfs in a 'hotfix', when it wasn't shaco's stats but the new itemization.

LordGeovanniDec 15, 20161 votes

and on the other hand tops that arent darius and ryze and other juggernauts are rubbish compared to every other lane and class except supports

ZelorxonDec 15, 20161 votes

He needs proper itemization, on top of that.

DunkinNoobsDec 15, 20161 votes

Aatrox would scale a lot better if people stopped building him like this item 3074 item 3153 item 3742 item 3065 item 3047 item 3026 and started building him like this item 3046 item 3031 item 3111 item 3143 item 3022 . Stop building Aatrox like Jax and start building him like Yasuo and you'll see way, way better results.

MatthewRT2Dec 15, 20161 votes

ap aatrox does more damage than ad aatrox that shows how bad he is

DunkinNoobsDec 15, 20161 votes

That's not even close to true.

MatthewRT2Dec 15, 20161 votes

He does, build him full ap and your e and ult make up for more than the damage you'd be losing on the ult

DunkinNoobsDec 15, 20161 votes

Lol no.

MatthewRT2Dec 15, 20161 votes

Yeah, try it

DunkinNoobsDec 15, 20161 votes

No.

http://imgur.com/a/4IY8f

Ruin LanceDec 15, 20161 votes

just wondering why not build item 3026 instead of item 3143 ? or is it situational?

DunkinNoobsDec 15, 20162 votes

Because GA on Aatrox isn't actually that good. Aatrox wants items that keep him non-stop autoing, and GA just doesn't do that. The only time I would even consider GA on Aatrox is when I'm extremely fed; otherwise just being tanky is better.

Ruin LanceDec 15, 20162 votes

ah ok. I was just wondering since it seemed like the hybrid resistances might be good since you already have mallet for HP. any other items you might consider?

DunkinNoobsDec 15, 20161 votes

Anything that keeps you up and auto attacking. Maw is super good. Visage is good if you really want the mad healing. ER isn't bad if you're miles ahead since it'll make your CD's so low. Deaths Dance is also super, super good and I get it against any burst oriented duelist, whether it be Fiora, Riven, Yasuo, etc. DD+PD will make you an absolute monster duelist while also being basically inescapable.