Could we talk about the egregious shield stacking and yasuo shield mechanic?

BatmenAndRobins·Jan 25, 2020·1 votes·1,060 views

On top of having 1 free shield per minion wave godly waveclear, multihit lifesteal from q procs while having the shield and 6.5 per 5. This very very much feels like a bloated champion in terms of hidden and not hidden stats. I'd really like to just play against someone who doesnt have near a 100 hp shield every single god damn minion wave. What's that amount to every 30 seconds realistically? 3 per second? Could we find a way to get yasuo in not such a frustrating spot? I feel more statchecked every time I play an even or less than favorable matchup into this champion than anything else.

11 Comments

Edge of DaybreakJan 25, 20204 votes

Ah yes the classic Nerf Yasuo thread this time featuring the pinnacle of game knowledge that is complaining about stacking steraks and phantom dancer. Real People, Real Post.

WoonStruckJan 25, 20201 votes

I don't think he's saying that's a build...

I think his point is his shield on top of one of those three items, plus maybe another if you toss on BT.

Realistically, if Yasuo gets a nerf, it should be the way lifesteal interacts with his Q. That's why it feels like his shield blocks everything. The little bit that leaks through gets sustained up relatively easily with a doran's blade during laning.

BatmenAndRobinsJan 26, 20201 votes

The multi hit life-steal has always been what feels like a cheat in terms of lane sustain. While I am complaining about the shield stacking specifically it has more to do with this layered on top of other frustrating parts of his kit. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts so to speak. I also think there's something to be said for potentially diminishing returns on shield stacking so it's not such a super strong power spike when building some of these items together. Frankly I fail to see how the shield has ever been a meaningful part of his kit somehow distinguishing as something meaningful and healthy for a laning phase. It doesn't have a penalty or cooldown like a comparable passive being malphites health shield. On top of that he already gets a mountain of gold in free stats from double crit so the shield always seems like extra fat.

BatmenAndRobinsJan 26, 20201 votes

I was complaining about specifically what are very popular items and how their interaction feels like fighting a lot of bloated stats. https://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Middle? Those 3 items are part of his core build which when fighting yasuo at the beginning of a teamfight can be trying to break through 3-4 shields mid game before you actually get to the champions hp bar.

WoonStruckJan 25, 20204 votes

I still think Morello's should be changed to %shield reduction or bonus damage to shield instead of GW. It fits the burst design of the item better anyway.

ProphetOfDravenJan 25, 20201 votes

IMO Grievous wounds should be "anti sustain" and reduce both self heals and self shields but not heals and shields that come from allies.

ﬂooJan 25, 20201 votes

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I still think Morello's should be changed to %shield reduction instead of GW. It fits the burst design of the item better anyway.

If we had shield breaks/shreds in items instead of making it exclusive to 2 champions, enchanters wouldn't have to work with trash shields that are useless by default.

BatmenAndRobinsJan 26, 20201 votes

If AP items ever reach a meaningful spot in terms of balance, I'd like to see it be able to do both making it a bit more comparable to item 3033 I think there's something to be said for potentially diminishing returns on heals and shields. Or maybe buff void staff to do something closer to that while increasing the cost

FSRERJan 25, 20201 votes

You blame Yasuo's kit and from all reasons and viewpoints which he is overpowered, you talk on the items he can potentially build? Really?

ZephyrDrakeJan 25, 20201 votes

so... now please tell me how is this any different from any champion in the game that builds those items? how is this any different from champions in the game that not only have their own shields but also have allies and items that also give shields? like why are you complaining about Yasuo specifically about this? a little bias much?