Look i'm not gonna be hashinshin and make a 20 year long post on this, we all know its happening. But whats up with the state of top lane. It's so...one dimensional and unbalanced. Theres no diviancy of the champion picks besides the few bruiser/tanks that swap between flavors of the month and half the time its onesided or a wetnoodle fight that leads to whoever having the best tp play wins the lane or the game even at times. What The hell Is up With Top lane? RITOPLX
In a vacuum hard counters can exist Toplane is very close to a vacuum.
I have had bad games going 0/10 by 10 minutes and won. Botlane carried
Poor volibear couldn't win a fight vs a less fed ADC his team even supported him in that game.
It's not so much TOPLANE it's the Melee fighters vs Ranged argument. Toplane just happens to be the only place left where melee fighters see play. And they are getting shoved out.
Feelsbadman
Because top is literally choose the best tank or nasus. It shoves all bruisers to the low tier.
I have actual depression
Not to mention the stupid ass fucking junglers who 100% dictates the way you play while your jungler does nothing and leaves 1v2 while they get tower for free. I'm so fucking sick of this shit please gut the fucking JG role.
For me, toplane is very closely tied to the jungle. Early jungle is just so damn impactfull and busted atm, and it really limits your options for top, since top is a very vulnerable lane. You can't excert any early preasure or you give a free kill to their jungler, unless you play one of the few super save picks. This heavily reduces the viablillity of alot of champions that would rely on early preasure to establish lane dominance and snowball from there. I can beat tanks, even orm, with most bruiser quite well, but only if i actually get to play it 1v1. As soon as their jungler shows, i'm done for, because i have to conistently keep the preasure up to win the matchup, and they have good CC to set up ganks. In the old days, even if you pushed the to their tower as a champ like renekton or darius, the opposing jungler would think tiwce befor ganking you as he would be behind in level and probably not fullhealth. But now, even stuff like jayce jungle runs unto your lane at min 3 beeing 1 lvl up on you with doublebuff and fullhealth, and you can't even ward because the usless trinket only has a ~35% uptime early on.
The other issue is that impacting the rest of the game as melee is prettymuch impossible unless one of 3 things happens:
Bur as soon as other parts of the map get a it fed, you hardly can do shit, and if your botlane snowballs, you also don't matter anymore, you can just watch them win the game while beeing at best a distraction in comparision.
#I miss Fevor Darius meta
2017: ADC mains complains about ADCs being weak even if they aren't, tricks Riot into buffing them to make botlane the only relevant lane
2018: Everyone complains about other lanes being useless, while top being even worse along with bruisers, Riot ignores them for no reason
the current situation sucks, but the minion aggro changes helped a lot.
theyre a fucking blessing against ranged poke matchups. no more ranged single target poke with shit like teemo q, or pantheon spear spam without taking some damage in return.
the minion changes turned poke into trades. at least early on. but early on before you return to lane with your first defensive item is when it counts the most.
i think more than top lane matchups, riot needs to fix the game impact of top lane bruisers as a whole, and reduce the game impact and snowballing of bot lane. the issue isnt picks and counterpicks as much as that top lane is the definition of "win lane, lose game" right now, because ad carries outscale so fast. it actually doesnt even fucking matter if you win or lose lane at all.
Honestly the big problem is that the tank and juggernaut updates were honestly the laziest and the worse out of all them, that fixed none of the problems and only created more problems.
I don't know, I've played top recently and they've not felt any different than usual. I've played as Yorick, Maokai, Nasus and Urgot and faced Illaoi, Darius, Garen, Tryndamere, Shen, Teemo, Urgot, Irelia, Akali and Varus. So in total I've played 3 different Bruisers and 1 Tank while I've faced 1 Marksman, 1 Specialist, 2 Slayers, 1 Tank and 5 Bruisers. I could carry as Urgot top, so it's not just whatever the best bot wins.
Pick something new then.
Veigar top for free AP?
Fiora?
(Another mage because Im running out of ideas...)
I remember I once had 5 top games in a row where the enemy was ranged. (they werent after each other since top is my secondary). It fells bad. I would argue sometimes even worse then when Darius automatically won lane against everyone wich couldn`t outdamage him in a timewindow of 3 seconds while also getting away from him
The only way to compete with tank was to play GP , Q them and outscale but with the klepto nerf we can't anymore. Bruisers are in the gutter and rito doesn't care. I've been playing top for 2 and a half season and this season I really feel like I have no impact.
