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Veigar Never See's A Game Again

Call Me Sensei··3 votes·768 views

Veigar

Seriously I still do NOT see how this new gamestyle is helping veigar. Why go to a possible aoe stun when you can go leona or malphite. Why go to veigar when there are great mobile champs that can burst and escape.

I'm pretty sure you all know why I'm Q-Q. His stun is impossible to land now because of the delay. His W is even more impossible to land now because the only thing that get people hit in the first was place was his stun + people who were willing to tank that damage.... but anyways..

Easy counter. Stay in middle of stun cuz you know you won't be stunned THAT or go buy Mercury's Treads and you pretty much dodge his W thanks to the reduced stun time.

sigh Even his buffed damage + Easier Stacking doesn't save this champion with all the new skills/Champions that can jump into him and jump right back out. Toss his stun on his champ? Spawn the stun right on him? Toss the meteor in the middle of the stun or on yourself? Pointless because they will dodge it in half a second with either running or just bursting him before he even land his stun

Heck you can make his ult hit minions for all I care just fix his stun. THAT or make every single skill in the game "skilled base" what do I mean? Pantheon Spear throw, Vaynes knockback, Kayles slow, Annies fireball, Katerina dagger toss, are now projectiles where you have to aim like Veigar's Q. Btw Im joking about all that because you know its not that hard to land his Q but I dont see why Veigar has to aim while all other champs has auto lock on

13 Comments

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Did you know that Veigar's Event Horizon now blocks dashes attempting to go through it? It's a very good counter against champions that you'd normally expect to just escape the box before the stun comes up. Teleport abilities of course don't pass through the wall like a dash so don't count though, so an Ekko's E initial dash will stop but the E secondary blink portion will go over it, and same with Leblanc's Distortion.

Call Me Sensei1 votes

hardly you can walk past his stun any day. Oh and the fact that you beat a Yasuo is amazing lol. No matter where I place my stun they can leave my range or just jump right on me. Its stupidly bad. Oh and I can care less about players who dash past it because before they would still get stunn'ed now theyre just stuned on the wall but in comparison I rather keep the stun + dash thru then Stun + stop + delay.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Well I'm not saying it's fool proof, but if you know they want to dash you can completely prevent them from doing it if you're quick. I destroyed an Ekko top because he didn't keep up with the changes and he ran into it every time (I'm saying it was Ekko's lack of experience and not my own skill in this instance, though).

What Yasuo match though? I don't think I've faced one (as Veigar) lately. Nevermind I see you were talking about Mikey6018 not me.

Call Me Sensei1 votes

oh as for the dashing and etcs. I have players just walking past the event horizon once I spawn it out. Literally walk right out of it instead of staying in the middle or like you said attempting to dash out. Like spawn it on them they sit there. Spawn it kind of near them. walk right out of it. Frustrating

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Well yes, that's the general counterplay they intentionally introduced. Rylai's has more AP now (and a 40% slow to all of his abilities) so can be considered for use on Veigar now. While it probably shouldn't be your first item, it could help. I don't want you to think I'm saying "Event Horizon OP shut up", just thinking of ways to make it work instead of ways to make it fail.

7ha7guy7772 votes

It actually doesn't have more ap. Luden's and Zhonya's just have less.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Oh wait. Oops. Yes the widespread AP changes got me confused. It only got the build path and slow amount changed. Thank you.

CreationFlaw1 votes

Well.... His damage got nerfed, it's just stacking had the ability of 2 for 1 and additional range.

SpiritGear1 votes

I beat a yasou with veigar that should say something

LaowPing1 votes

Someone suggested to start building Rylai's on Veigar since it got buffed. What way, one ability gives you a strong enough slow for the stun.

Call Me Sensei1 votes

Your suggestion does prove a point but the fact that Veigar doesn't scale anymore. In my opinion Combo is everything. Now? Its Q and R for a kill. Heck I dont even know why I bother using meteor anymore.

If anything I say Stun time increase > delay. WHAT I actually mean is level one stun is instantanously spawn the event horizon but as you rank it up the delay will come into play.

1 = 0 seconds 2= 0.3 seconds 3= 0. 5 seconds 4= 0.745 seconds 5= 1 seconds.

Sun time increased 1= 1.5 seconds 2=2 seconds 3=2.5 seconds 4=3 seconds 5= 3.5 seconds

And no Im just using the above as an example on how long the stun will apply.

LaowPing1 votes

But then no one would some people wouldn't even put point's into if it delays more. 1.5 is plenty to work with then the stun is instant.

CreationFlaw1 votes

If they'd just widen his E hitbox by like 25, it'd make it so much nicer. I find I don't stun people even though it lands practically on top of them because the walls are so thin.

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