Do counters actually exist? What's the point of the concept?

Voraise·Aug 6, 2015·1 votes·1,267 views

So I understand the whole concept of the "counter-pick" but I've always wondered why people treat it like you're going to lose if you get countered. The way I see it, this game comes down to knowing. The more you know the more likely you are to win through out-plays, out farming, punishing mistakes etc... The question I pose is why do people in the elo I'm currently in treat this concept like it's a religion?

P.S. I figured this would go into the gameplay section but I'm not 100% sure because I rarely use the forums.

9 Comments

hh the thinkerAug 6, 20152 votes

counters make a difference, but aren't 100%. you can beat a counter in lane if they play it badly or you play it really well. people give counters too much credit sometimes though and forget about personal skill and experience.

360D3GR3SSAug 6, 20152 votes

Counters are never meant to be treated so seriously. Unless it is something like malphite vs tryndamere, which is blatantly in immense favor of malphite.

GoldenTomat0Aug 6, 20151 votes

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Counters are never meant to be treated so seriously. Unless it is something like malphite vs tryndamere, which is blatantly in immense favor of malphite.

or darius vs nasus. that lane is unwinnable as nasus. darius is gonna shit on your so hard and so much it's not funny.

hh the thinkerAug 6, 20151 votes

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or darius vs nasus. that lane is unwinnable as nasus. darius is gonna shit on your so hard and so much it's not funny.

I've actually won that, you just have to be willing to give up a bit of cs here and there and force the minions to push towards your tower. nasus doesn't really win lane lane, it's just a matter of getting stacks.

360D3GR3SSAug 6, 20151 votes

exactly. But if a champion has means of easily shoving you out of lane it will be rough.

hh the thinkerAug 6, 20151 votes

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exactly. But if a champion has means of easily shoving you out of lane it will be rough.

true, but nasus has a lot of tough match ups. you get use to it if you play enough nasus.

Sakura MirageAug 6, 20151 votes

Counter picking just makes match ups easier so you can get more farm than if you don't counter pick. That's my personal opinion there is lots of different opinions out there on why it helps.

46104328_DELAug 6, 20151 votes

To use one of my FAVORITE match-ups as an example, when I'm Urgot and I see a Teemo? I get positively giddy. My passive means his stealth, and blind are both useless, and I can just bully him out of lane.

If one characters kit completely negates the enemy, that is a hard counter.

1000angrybeesAug 6, 20151 votes

There's favorable matchups and unfavorable matchups. Most are truly whether you can best the opponent with said advantage or disadvantage, while there are almost none that are truly impossible of winning. Also there's playing to a champs strengths to overcome their weaknesses, don't forget.