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Let's talk Cassiopeia.

Rico Nasty··9 votes·1,097 views
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Cassiopeia, AKA the mess of a champion with a rushed "rework". After her last round of post-rework brutal nerfs, she is pretty much unusable. Choose her into assassins? Get bursted to death. Choose her into other mages? She just gets outclassed. She is needlessly squishy and immobile, and if her Q is on cooldown she is extremely vulnerable. Besides, any form of CC deletes her. Cassiopeia's one-track playstyle is not healthy or fun to play as or against. It's just repeatedly throwing out Q's and E's. She runs out of mana far too fast for this. Not to mention, Riot destroyed her core identity - DoT poison mage. She just feels like an E bot now. The only thing Cass needed was some bugfixes and small buffs, not a full-on rework that completely changed her playstyle. She is a nightmare to balance as of now. And when then those uncalled-for nerfs on PBE came out, I knew it was the end for our beloved snake lady. Right now, she is sitting at a 47% winrate, which is, sadly, her highest in a while. She has a spammy playstyle that doesn't have any fun ability interactions or anything. Just repeated spamming of 2 abilities. Also, that stupid passive. How is it related to her theme at all? It's just a ball of stats that auto-stacks.

Can we please just get SOMETHING for Cassiopeia? I don't give a shit that her chromas suck, I give a shit that she's one of the worst midlaners right now who was bashed in the face by the nerf hammer. She really was a great champion with great lore and a fun playstyle, she's just plain horrible now. I'd be totally up for either A. a better rework or B. reverting the rework all together.

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The Queen Viper2 votes

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

After her last round of post-rework brutal nerfs, she is pretty much unusable.

Only if you don't know how to play her ... otherwise, she's just fine.

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

Choose her into assassins? Get bursted to death.

Again, only if you don't know how to play her ... against assassins, exhaust is your friend.

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

Choose her into other mages? She just gets outclassed.

No, not really.

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

She is needlessly squishy and immobile, and if her Q is on cooldown she is extremely vulnerable.

Depends how you are playing her ... and same goes to the champ called Kog'Maw. They share similar traits.

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

It's just repeatedly throwing out Q's and E's. She runs out of mana far too fast for this.

You are not supposed to spam them mindlessly u know ... and after Tear, most of her mana issues are gone.

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

Not to mention, Riot destroyed her core identity - DoT poison mage.

Incorrect. That was one of her playstyles sure, but not her "core identity".

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

And when then those uncalled-for nerfs on PBE came out, I knew it was the end for our beloved snake lady. Right now, she is sitting at a 47% winrate, which is, sadly, her highest in a while.

Powerlevel-wise, she's still just fine... the problem seems to be, that there are not many people who know how to play her well.

[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-30T18:01:12.396+0000)

I give a shit that she's one of the worst midlaners right now who was bashed in the face by the nerf hammer.

Again, she's just fine in midlane ... maybe it's time to look at the mirror if you suck with her. And wtf you are even whining for? You don't even main Cass anyway, you barely play her with that Bronze 4 account of yours.

Oerba No Naja2 votes

honestly , after 300 game with cass in high plat im getting bored of her machin gun ^^ , maybe thats just me but u cant deny that A LOT of players are complaining about her gameplay .. like a thread on cassio's rework every weeks

The Queen Viper1 votes

[{quoted}](name=King Freeza ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FxFnqiId,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-07-31T01:51:11.063+0000)

but u cant contest that A LOT of players are complaining about her gameplay .. like a thread on cassio's rework every weeks

Yes, there are players who do not enjoy playing Cass with the "E - centric" playstyle, so they are arguing about thematics ... however that's completely different thing than her actual viability and balancing.

Oerba No Naja4 votes

its not all about that , when cassio 's rework hit the pbe there was a lot of feedback from the player base ( 80% didnt like the rework ) and that riot told us they were going to work on cassio's gameplay again but they did not keep their promises and prefered to rework fiora

sry for my bad english but i think u can understand it anyway .

Oerba No Naja3 votes
  • cassio DID NOT need full REWORK , up her e dmg and give her some sustain was enough to make her more powerfull , and idk why riot wanted to rework cassio and keep alive champs like POPPY and TARIC ?

and i feel legit that the community is complaining here

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

She is not a mess Let me give you a run down. When she was released, her design goal or idea was to be a champion who poisons an enemy and then spams E in fashion like an ADC. In this case, her E, Twin Fangs would function as a AA. The idea once more was that she was suppose to be a mage that function similarly to an ADC but having the benefits of a mage. Back in S2 for example, most guide would suggest for players to max E because the highest damage output was only possible by maxing E first. Back in those day, she was considered a big bully in lane. Evidently, this is why her passive back in the day gave her abilities % mana cost reduction the more she spammed in a short time period; the idea was to land a Q and go in for E trades. By the time Zed and other champions like Yasou or Syndra came out, she was not considered a bully, but rather a champion who was being bullied. So most guides started suggesting maxing Q for poke because she was not able to safely trade with E like back in the days.

Riot noticed this and decided to try and change it back. Her E was given a tune up, her Q weakened. Items fit her better. She can spam E to wave clear like she should have had long ago. She got mana %/refund in her E. She even got built in life vamp. Her passive was created because ADC scaling better into late game. AD scales better because of Crit, Pen, and Attack speed. This is why her passive gives her life vamp (like life steal), huge AP % scaling to give her more dmg, and cooldown reduction so she can still function as a mage with the ult.

In reality, she is playing exactly the way she should be. The reworked actually made Cass into what she was originally designed to be, but because of new items and champion it didn't work. The rework made that happen. I like it and I have over 1,000 games with Cass. She is by far more healthier than back in the day. Do I think she is perfect? NO she needs a bit of tuning with her W and her passive cooldown reduction.

Statistically speaking both her winrate and pick rate are up. Prior to rework she was barely a 1.5% pickrate and 47% winrate. Right now she averages 3% and 48%. And as far as Mid lane is considered, there are other mid laners who have worse winrate and pick rate and haven't been tuned for a long time.

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