Champ X needs to be OP because he's "MELEE", he lacks range

TrollsShouldDie··3 votes·1,227 views

BULL FUCKING SHIT

Unless you are an ADC, then your auto attacks don't matter, only your abilities matter. If your abilities are RANGED, then you are a RANGED champion, not a MELEE, and therefore your power level should be adjusted accordingly.

Some overpowered examples who claim to be "melee" but aren't:

Akali Camille Evelynn Jax Irelia Kayn MasterYi Rengar Vi Zed Yasuo

just to name a few.

These RANGED champions need their power levels reduced substantially.

8 Comments

iiGazeii4 votes

The weakness of most of these champions isn't range, it's late-game scaling. If you keep running at champs like Akali, Zed, Vi, or Irelia trying to 1v1, you will lose. Winning 1v1s is what they do. What they fail to do is win teamfights and late-game objectives due to the fact that they need to dump all of their cooldowns getting in, getting the kill, and getting out.

However, this is only a weakness if the teams are even. If they are ahead (possibly due to a dumbass running at them and dying repeatedly), then they can demolish their enemies with impunity, but they can only do that if they are huge and strong. That's why it's called "carrying". If you play safe, let them push up, and farm CS under tower while poking them to prevent a tower dive, then you'll outscale them and crush them in the late game. If they get frustrated and leave to roam for kills, shove the wave into their tower to deny them farm for a free back, deep wards, or a countergank.

Macro play is the key to beating assassins. Even if you land every ability, they will beat you in short trades and all-ins. Proper wave management, CS, and teamfighting is how you beat assassins, not the raw power of your champion.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Irelia is, by no means, weak in teamfigts.

KFCeytron3 votes

I'm surprised Udyr wasn't included, what with Phoenix Stance's 625-unit cone radius.

usul12023 votes

Sorry, I'm not sure I quite understand. Are you saying that autos aren't important for akali, Camille, Jax, yi, rengar, vi, and zed? Because all of them need autos or they're massively nerfed. (mm, not massively for zed, but any good zed knows you need to weave autos or you're gimping yourself)

TrollsShouldDie1 votes

Akali triggering a passive, with ONE auto attack after using a ranged gap closer is not the same as an ADC who has to continuously auto attack. Yi gets free gap closing and massive damage with alpha strike, Jax same thing as Yi, his gap closer is spammable, making is auto attack buff a guarantee to land, and so on.

These "melee" champions cannot be kitted because of their spammable RANGED abilities.

Bobloser35552 votes

All abilities are ranged including those from ranged champs, get to level 30 first. I agree that some of these cahmps can be op or even toxic but most you listed are not.

GaleWonder1 votes

Unless you are an ADC, then your auto attacks don't matter, only your abilities matter. If your abilities are RANGED, then you are a RANGED champion, not a MELEE, and therefore your power level should be adjusted accordingly.

wait doesn't that mean pretty much every champion in the game is an ranged champion by your definition...?

TrollsShouldDie1 votes

No, it does not. Analyze champion abilities more carefully.

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