Veigar's useless E, and how to fix it. [@Riot]

ClockHead··1 votes·449 views

The Problem: When Veigar's E was nerfed, I feel there wasn't enough thought put into it. It was OP, and changing it is probably for the best, but I don't think you took the right approach. Veigar's E is probably one of the most important parts of his kit, and by adding a delay, it ruins his sustain in lane.

The Solution: I think his E should be changed so that it traps somebody in the middle, but not stun them instantly, like you talked about. Adding a delay won't fix this. It will only make it so you can only land his stun if the enemy isn't paying attention to their screen. At that point, you wouldn't need to stun them, now would you? I propose that his E isn't a stun, but a circular wall instead. You could make it a little smaller, and while you're at it, add some fancy new textures, because why not?

Pros of E:

  • The area will be just small enough so that if you W right in the middle, it will hit any enemy inside the wall, no matter where they are
  • There's no delay, so you can surprise enemies
  • Enemies trapped can't escape unless using flash/abilities

Cons of E:

  • Enemies with teleport abilities can escape, leaving more counter-room for Veigar
  • Enemies can still attack and use abilities
  • If there's no way out, you can at least die spamming your laugh

One final thing, if you're not gonna change Veigar's E, at least let me refund my skins for him. KTHXBAI

4 Comments

Xrusa1 votes

Uh...the idea is to give it counterplay, and making a wall like this which sounds like a Jarvan ult wall is a bit painful for a lot of enemies. Imagine if you're someone with low range and no teleporting skills such as Zed's W, for example perhaps a Yasuo. Veigar could E himself as a protective wall and just do as he pleases. It could get silly, or make people suicide.

ClockHead1 votes

It wouldn't do any damage, and would last only 2-3 seconds. Not to mention it would probably have increased cooldown, so you couldn't just spam it. He also couldn't put it up and just do as he pleases, because it would be a bit smaller than his current stun, and would only cover about half of mid.

noobmev1 votes

riot fix this fcking champ he does nothing on the lane farms for 15 min and then oneshots with one button you let a champ that can fcking oneshot you with anyt button fix his passive we can't do nothing with this and he has no counter play and no skill like cm on i lost 1000 gmaes that were so good and then at the end they reterned casue the enemy veigar got strong by farming with 1/10 is this fair ?

Oleandervine1 votes

You're aware they reduced the delay on E, right? They initially gave it a 0.75s delay when they first changed it, and due to backlash and the unplayability of the ability, they reduced the delay to 0.25s. The newer delay is much harder to just scoot out of, and any Karthus Veigar player should know how to time their abilities to get the most out of the delay. It's not hard to predict where an enemy might go and thus trap or stun them, and unless they're someone like Zed, who can just shadow jump out of the wall, anyone Veigar manages to capture is going to take a lot of damage or die. So yeah, Event Horizon is far from useless right now. You just have to relearn how to time it.

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