Why can't people just listen in Bronze/Silver

Jötunheimr·2/4/2016, 7:29:07 AM·7 votes·4,711 views

I can't win any games when people do not know how to listen. The past few games I have been carrying so hard in the games getting 12+ kills or going positive. These people DO NOT know when to fight someone or when NOT to fight someone. It's the most stressful thing to deal with when you are so close to winning the game and you are telling these people what to do and how to close it out and they just don't listen. They fight 4v5s or some stupid shit like that, they suicide for kills when it's LATE GAME, and they engage in fights when you tell them shit like "Don't fight, I'm going to go push top turret to inhib, just stall them and wait." and as soon as you go top, they all die. I really just want to get the hell out of silver so I can get some more educated and skilled players on my team. Not to mention all of the trolls/toxic kids in bronze/silver. It's so unreal... shoot me.

25 Comments

Little Stick Man2/4/2016, 7:32:37 AM6 votes

welcome to the struggle

Dreadlocks2/4/2016, 8:18:52 AM3 votes

Happends in gold too, and some of these guys have admitted to being high plat -_-

Ruin Lance2/4/2016, 10:00:04 AM3 votes

my biggest pet peeve with low elo, is like what you said "don't fight without me guys! let me push this lane out then i'll come back to group!" 19 seconds later Jinx ENEMY QUADRA KILL!

T10130002/4/2016, 8:13:21 AM2 votes

Here's what I found playing in low elo: Just ignore your team. Let them do whatever the hell they want, and try to finish games fast. Late game in bronze or silver is horrible, it stretches on for 40+ minutes and once I have played a game where a team threw so badly, they lost when we had an open nexus. Here's how you win games:

-Give 0 craps about lane. If you get a kill, that's great, but once you have ult, start roaming. if you play mid, roam bot or top when you see kill opportunities. Try to make plays, and don't just take kills and leave, kill the laner, and try to take a tower, low elo ppl usually insta back, but push lane instead. There is no point in staying in lane if you are not getting objectives, farming back and forth for 15 minutes is a waste of time.

-If you are top, roam down. When I play top and if I am unable to push hard enough to take tower, I just roam mid, try to make something happen, then roam bot and try again, this gives you a TON of options as you can get dragon from here. REMEMBER: never use tp to go back to lane, coming to lane to get 5 cs isn't worth it. Save TP for roaming to fights, or just walk down to lanes and save TP for when the enemy top pushes too hard.

-Don't worry about your team, and don't do anything that requires complex coordination from your team. If your team goes into a stupid fight, make sure you are there to turn it around. Don't try split pushing or farming, if your team groups, group with them to ensure that you win fights. NEVER rely on your team to do anything by themselves. So no split pushing, unless your whole team is roaming over the entire map. If your team groups, get your butt back to them ASAP, a loss of 4 kills is far worse than a turret.

-Pressure the whole map. This goes back to roaming. The trick to getting towers is to roam faster than the enemy team. you just want to be everywhere at once early on, most likely, if you roam enough, you can just get the enemy to /ff.

-Don't play ADC, unless you have a support duo, or vice versa. Botlane makes you reliant on another player which is bad.

-Save tp. Don't waste it. If it isn't urgent, walk. If it isn't safe, walk. Tp is a super strong spell people misuse because they waste it on getting around lanes to farm easier. Use it to get kills.

-don't care about farm. Your farm numbers don't matter, just try to last hit, but don't feel obligated to farm 100 cs in 10 minutes.

Shadow Savage2/4/2016, 10:19:54 AM2 votes

You're part of the problem - always blaming others for your mistakes

La Barbotte2/4/2016, 9:28:39 AM2 votes

because they are gods held back by shitty teamates (hope you feel the kappas)

Calabok2/4/2016, 6:06:52 PM1 votes

Children are usually taught that they should not listen to strangers and later in years, that subconscious training shows in solo queue.

GamblerOfLives2/4/2016, 8:24:33 AM1 votes

simple,, avoid 5 vs 5:)

The Fat Fish7/28/2019, 5:19:57 PM1 votes

Somewhere something went wrong and now it's impossible to progress. Nobody ever listens and I've just had a 7 game losing streak because people can't listen. The huge difference between iron/bronze/silver and the upper divisions is how players group for the late game. Today was my last day playing the game because it's so infuriating to be stuck in a constant losing streak through sheer idiocy of team mates.

If we lose because we are outplayed then fine, but throwing games like this isn't acceptable. Surely there must be a way to reset your ELO so you can progress on from this nightmare?

Talk to ze hand2/4/2016, 10:20:23 AM1 votes

first of all if i may say im pretty bad myself.after 1500 games i was in silver last season so ye pretty bad.however trying to get better taught me some things(clearly not excelently but in a respectable way)when to push,when to stale,when to splitpush,how to cs beter,etc.why am i saying these things?well because one of the reasons I believe low elos (bronze,silver)are so bad is because of the new players getting into ranked way before they should.

a new player that gets lucky on his placements can go up to silver 3-silver 2 i believe?correct me if im wrong.while i dont have absolutely nothing with new players(why would i)if you are new and most propably lvled your way with aram you cant stand on a ranked match not even in bronze.you know why?because you dont know how to cs properly you dont know how to react on certain situations practicaly losing the game singlehandedly for your team,and for you to be beter you need practice,which you didnt acquire yet.and you guys must understand what ranked is.ranked is riots idea of a competitive mode.you join ranked to play competitively ,focus ,while you know your shit the best you can.you dont join if you have lag,30 mins to spare,to try a new champion,etc.there are other modes for that.

this is not a hate speech for new players,but i find to be a big problem in low elos because even me a very bad league player can propably demolish a new player that might climb to diamond and challenger and be the new faker but he isnt yet.ive seen things in ranked that i cant believe i could see ever.players without runes,without t3 runes,that never ever follow the team on teamfights and objectives,adcs 40 mins in with all the enemy missing trying to take t2 tower alone(while the rest of us were screaming for him to get back),just awefull things that make the game so unfun that its not even worth to try.

i dont say that i would be diamond if that problem wasnt there,maybe im just silver matterial but id like to have a campetitive experience even in low elo.id like ppl to know what ranked is when they join(both new and old) and behave appropriately because when normal is more competitve and enjoyable than ranked then why would someone bother with it.

Nagoh Shan2/4/2016, 4:20:58 PM1 votes

While and at the same time all the people you play with are thinking:

"Why won't these people in Bronze/silver just listen? Our most fed player won't group, when we just need to stick together so we don't get picked or hard-engaged. I wish people would just listen, It's so frustrating when we're 1 fight from winning and they just leave to farm top/bot and we have no way to disengage/avoid hard-engage."

Everyone thinks they're faultless in loss, and it's rarely the case. The people who can carry do, and the most often do it by just carrying, not by telling their team what to do.