Level 3 dragon? Really? Fix Pantheon. Proposal within.

Cheesecakecrush·11/30/2014, 4:56:51 PM·4 votes·1,778 views

Pantheon gaining early dragon control is putting immense pressure on purple team's bans. His ability to dragon so early makes all of his teams items give a large amount of free gold in stats. After that first dragon the other team is stuck playing catchup.

A simple fix would be to make it so epic monsters bypass pantheons passive. This wouldn't remove very much of pantheons early game power while keeping him from cheesing a sizeable team wide early game advantage.

15 Comments

Junkο11/30/2014, 5:44:58 PM6 votes

level 2*

Vexengetorix11/30/2014, 5:02:43 PM5 votes

Wait. What? He can dragon level 3? That's so broken.

Done2511/30/2014, 5:37:13 PM5 votes

Wouldn't it be.easier.to just.half the Dragon's damage.and double.his attack speed?

LongFur Fox11/30/2014, 5:34:31 PM4 votes

He can do it at level 1 with attack speed runes. Still the easiest option is to just increase dragon attack speed to double the amount then decrease the ad to 60% as that poor creature could use a buff anyways.

Rebonack11/30/2014, 5:33:49 PM3 votes

Wukong can do it at level 3. Pretty sure Heimer can pull it off at level 1. Almost dead certain that Shaco can still do it, too.

The dragon buff is getting nerfed down to 6% iirc.

It takes Panth nearly a minute to kill dragon. If you drop a ward in the dragon-pit at about two minutes he's a free kill AND a free dragon. If he's on the enemy team assume he's going to be going for an early dragon.

ThatAutofillSupp11/30/2014, 5:30:09 PM1 votes

i think pantheon is good where he stands atm, Just buff dragon's armor or damage until 7/15 minutes just like how the towers block part of auto attack damage the first 7 mins

DoIce N Shyvana11/30/2014, 5:27:53 PM1 votes

Fiora can do this easily at lvl 2.

Drogmyre11/30/2014, 5:25:15 PM1 votes

Fiddlesticks in every season previous to this one says Hi.

It's not the lv 3 Dragon that's problematic (that gimmick has been in the game on one champ or another for years)

It's the level 1/2 dragon, plus the insanely broken rank 1 dragon buff that's the problem.

Oh, it's 4 minutes or so into the game, and oh look 8% additional AD/AP, thanks pantheon.

If the first buff was %bonus damage to minions or something, it would be less of an issue. 8% AD/AP is basically a few hundred free gold for your entire team, it's worth more than old dragon stat-wise.

8% of 60 AD is 4.8, so every non-AD scaling champ just got 180g of free stats, not including any bonus AP.

Your carry and AD champs probably have about 70-80 or more. at 100 AD they get 360g worth of stats (free longsword.)

That's worth more than old dragon EASILY, and that's not OK. It gets even worse, because that advantage is insurmountable until the next dragon spawn, and if Pantheon's team is at all competent they'll secure that dragon too, snowballing even further.

That's not to say Dragon buff early on is gamebreaking, but it's a slippery slope that needs to be de-iced.

FrozenIndustry11/30/2014, 7:10:25 PM1 votes

Why change Pantheon? Why not just change Dragon's attack speed?