Level 3 dragon? Really? Fix Pantheon. Proposal within.

Cheesecakecrush·Nov 30, 2014·4 votes·1,778 views

Pantheon gaining early dragon control is putting immense pressure on purple team's bans. His ability to dragon so early makes all of his teams items give a large amount of free gold in stats. After that first dragon the other team is stuck playing catchup.

A simple fix would be to make it so epic monsters bypass pantheons passive. This wouldn't remove very much of pantheons early game power while keeping him from cheesing a sizeable team wide early game advantage.

15 Comments

JunkοNov 30, 20146 votes

level 2*

VexengetorixNov 30, 20145 votes

Wait. What? He can dragon level 3? That's so broken.

CheesecakecrushNov 30, 20142 votes

Yup. Some people are even doing it earlier.

Pinker 10Nov 30, 20143 votes

theres 10 champions that can

Better fix pantheon

Cus it's totally not drag thats broken

Done25Nov 30, 20145 votes

Wouldn't it be.easier.to just.half the Dragon's damage.and double.his attack speed?

Br4ndonNov 30, 20141 votes

thats exactly what i was thinking. maybe not double and half. it might look silly. like 20% faster and 20% less damage?

LongFur FoxNov 30, 20144 votes

He can do it at level 1 with attack speed runes. Still the easiest option is to just increase dragon attack speed to double the amount then decrease the ad to 60% as that poor creature could use a buff anyways.

RebonackNov 30, 20143 votes

Wukong can do it at level 3. Pretty sure Heimer can pull it off at level 1. Almost dead certain that Shaco can still do it, too.

The dragon buff is getting nerfed down to 6% iirc.

It takes Panth nearly a minute to kill dragon. If you drop a ward in the dragon-pit at about two minutes he's a free kill AND a free dragon. If he's on the enemy team assume he's going to be going for an early dragon.

Kuroi86Nov 30, 20141 votes

Lets not forget Fiddlesticks , Warwick & Nunu

DrogmyreNov 30, 20141 votes

Fiddlesticks in every season previous to this one says Hi.

It's not the lv 3 Dragon that's problematic (that gimmick has been in the game on one champ or another for years)

It's the level 1/2 dragon, plus the insanely broken rank 1 dragon buff that's the problem.

Oh, it's 4 minutes or so into the game, and oh look 8% additional AD/AP, thanks pantheon.

If the first buff was %bonus damage to minions or something, it would be less of an issue. 8% AD/AP is basically a few hundred free gold for your entire team, it's worth more than old dragon stat-wise.

8% of 60 AD is 4.8, so every non-AD scaling champ just got 180g of free stats, not including any bonus AP.

Your carry and AD champs probably have about 70-80 or more. at 100 AD they get 360g worth of stats (free longsword.)

That's worth more than old dragon EASILY, and that's not OK. It gets even worse, because that advantage is insurmountable until the next dragon spawn, and if Pantheon's team is at all competent they'll secure that dragon too, snowballing even further.

That's not to say Dragon buff early on is gamebreaking, but it's a slippery slope that needs to be de-iced.

CheesecakecrushNov 30, 20141 votes

I do agree and this was my major point, that his ability to cheese out a super early dragon like that provides a massive amount of free gold through blanket stats, and hybrid champs get double trouble from it.

DrogmyreNov 30, 20141 votes

I do agree and this was my major point, that his ability to cheese out a super early dragon like that provides a massive amount of free gold through blanket stats, and hybrid champs get double trouble from it.

It's easily fixed: Move the stat bonuses to later buff stacks.

DoIce N ShyvanaNov 30, 20141 votes

Fiora can do this easily at lvl 2.

ThatAutofillSuppNov 30, 20141 votes

i think pantheon is good where he stands atm, Just buff dragon's armor or damage until 7/15 minutes just like how the towers block part of auto attack damage the first 7 mins