I would like Zac's damage from the abilities to be nerfed or his ap/ad/hp scaling. Like his exploding passive. It deals to much area damage for a tank, even if he has 1 or 2 ap items. If you see this and agree with it, i will be very happy.
Timethief492 votes"Like his axploding passive" Maybe you should try a champ and understand it before you complain about it?
BORA DJORDJEVIC1 votesI did. I have played the new zac and the damage he does is insane. The cc isn't a big problem. All you need is dashes, teleports and flashes.
Timethief491 votesThe thing i mean is he has no exploding passive that does damage
Ralanr1 votes...if he has AP items then it SHOULD HURT. Most people complain about it hurting without AP. He doesn't even have AD scaling.
Big Lincoln1 votesnah
i don't think tanks should have any capacity to deal damage when they have so much CC now
Ralanr1 votesGotta clear the jungle somehow.
Big Lincoln1 votesgive flat bonus damage to non champions
done, now we can make stunlock tanks not also chunk everyone they CC combo
Wet Dryman1 votesAlright, so now he must defend himself from counterjungle attempts without simply stunlocking enemy jungler and running away giving away gold and exp effectively being forced out of the jungle, how you do it with literally less damage than a Support deals?
Big Lincoln1 votesby getting your team to collapse on the guy you've kept in placed for 10 millennia
for the longest time nearly every tank was vulnerable to early invasions. that was the point, they're some of the best scaling junglers out there
Ralanr1 votesReally? I feel high dps scaling junglers scales much better.
Big Lincoln1 votesnot nearly as valuable to the standard team comp as a tank is. and tanks are still pretty well off late game these days because of these support items being so OP
dps junglers need their team to account for their pick to really work
Wet Dryman1 votesThis is literally forcing your team to handicap themselves by losing their lane pressure, their gold and their exp. Current Tanks deal big amount of damage to squishies and even then their win rates against counterjunglers are really bad. Your proposition is literally forcing them out of the Jungle roster or even maybe from the game itself as some of them aren't even good Supports.
Big Lincoln1 votesthe price you should pay for having hard CC on three spells
Wet Dryman1 votesOnly Tanks I play have hard CC only on 2 spells :P
Big Lincoln1 votesif tanks have low CC or if it's tied to ult (amumu, malph) they can have damage
zac sej galio should not, especially given how low counterplay they actually are
BORA DJORDJEVIC1 votesI think that his late damage should be nerfed only.
Ralanr1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ezoeh4y4,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-03T16:57:29.638+0000)
give flat bonus damage to non champions
Fuck dumb bandaids.
Pie Cubed1 votesEvery aspect of your post makes it lose credibility, as you know nothing about Zac to make any valid complaints. Do your research before making absurd claims like the "exploding passive" doing too much damage. As I once said, a claim without facts is a story.
BORA DJORDJEVIC1 votesIn fact i do research and i only think that his late game damage from his passive should be nerfed a bit atleast.
flyingbaklava1 votesZac had a lower banrate and was considerably less hated when his ultimate did more then double its current damage. Damage is not what makes Zac so hated, its his CC. If anything, his damage should get buffed so they can justify removing some of that insanely obnoxious CC.
BORA DJORDJEVIC1 votesHis cc can be avoidable. Maybe because i always play kled and escape his every cc.