If camille ults you and you win, her ult should deactivate immediately.

XOLeagueLife··179 votes·3,735 views

Its annoying that camille can ult me, i delete her in 2 seconds and im still trapped in her arena and pretty much a sitting duck forced to watch as the rest of her team close in and kill me.

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Incise34 votes

Agreed. Camille's Hextech Ultimatum is predicated on her forcing a duel with the chosen target. There ought to be no consolation for her if she loses a fight she starts. In keeping with her thematic as a methodical duelist of sorts, I feel that Camille should never receive a free assist if she miscalculates with her ult and gets herself killed. Sure, one could definetely argue it is meant to discourage pesky tower dives. And that is quite valid. However, I disagree that the feature should stay, namely because of those insufferable times when Camille misplays and still nets her team a free kill, despite having already bought the farm. I'd argue that avoiding situations like these is worth more than her "nuclear deterence", if you will.

TLDR: If she makes her bed, she'd best lie in it.

PeponiPoro3 votes

The fact they allow you to end the Ultimatum by knocking her out, but failed to allow escape if you kill her, is rather ridiculous. A Camille with one hundred health should not be able to trap you so her team can murder you. To be honest, I haven't played against Camille enough to experience this problem to the extreme, but now that it has been pointed out I won't be able to play a game against her without being pissed off by it.

Glory ln Death15 votes

Yeah, played a game as Akali mid vs Camille yesterday. Camille ulted me, I burst her down within 1 second. Now I'm sitting at 1/4 health with 3 seconds to go, feet from my tower, and the enemy Rengar saunters into lane, casually walks up to me and kills me since I can't run.

Kind of frustrating.

Oleandervine7 votes

Her ult is fine and it gives her some presence in a team fight, even if she dies, so I have no issue with it remaining how it is. She has a lot of things going on right now, and I feel like her ult is at the bottom of the list in terms of adjustments. If her shield and Q2 damage gets modified, and possibly her E range, this will be enough to pull her down a bit, and nerfing the ult may put her in an overly weak state. All things considered, Camille isn't terribly OP at the moment, unlike some launch champs in the past coughCertainlyTcough, and only a few nerfs will put her in line. The boards, though, seem very intent on a full blown witch hunt and execution.

BakedLotion5 votes

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Her ult is fine and it gives her some presence in a team fight, even if she dies, so I have no issue with it remaining how it is. She has a lot of things going on right now, and I feel like her ult is at the bottom of the list in terms of adjustments. If her shield and Q2 damage gets modified, and possibly her E range, this will be enough to pull her down a bit, and nerfing the ult may put her in an overly weak state. All things considered, Camille isn't terribly OP at the moment, unlike some launch champs in the past coughCertainlyTcough, and only a few nerfs will put her in line. The boards, though, seem very intent on a full blown witch hunt and execution.

Her ult is retarded. If she presses that shit on you, youre dead and theres nothing you can do about it in teamfights.

Astôlfo2 votes

Incorrect. The ultimate does not deal 100% maximum health true damage. Nor does it silence and suppress you for 4 seconds.

Magi Mayvin4 votes

yeah except you are trapped in there and even if you kill her you're still trapped in there and there's literally nothing you can do to escape while her team shits on you.

Astôlfo2 votes

Your fault for being alone. And you can hit her back or run around and waste time, believe it or not.

Magi Mayvin2 votes

how is my fault for being alone in a ult that pushed ALL of my teammates. You trying to defend this dumb mechanic won't work trust me, it shouldn't exist period

Astôlfo1 votes

Because the pushback is very brief and slight and doesn't prevent re-entry nor does it prevent you from stalling till they come back in.

Magi Mayvin2 votes

Ok dude then make my anivia ult remian while im in egg from how about that, that's also balanced right or make every champion in league able to ult when they are dead because that's basically what that champ is doing.I'd love someone passing by my dead body and me ulting with veigar, sounds fun and fair.

Astôlfo1 votes

They're nothing alike.

And you're going off on a tangent anyways.

Magi Mayvin2 votes

whatever not gonna stay here and argue with some camille player, it's like supporting Trump.

Astôlfo1 votes

Glad to know you've ran out of strawman arguments.

Have a nice day wallowing in your ignorance. :)

Magi Mayvin2 votes

How can I argue about something if you are too dumb to see that being trapped in one place NO MATTER WHAT even if you WIN the duel with the duelist shouldn't be a mechanic in the game, I can accept being trapped with camille in there,I can't accept being trapped with a dead camille in there.This kind of arguing doesn't need "strawman arguments" since you don't find this wrong for some weird reason so whatever i'll say u'll still be the same and say "nah dude it's totally fine". You're the ignorant one here. So yeah I'm not gonna waste my time here anymore,bye.

Astôlfo1 votes

You're contained in a large area with absolutely no restrictions otherwise. And if she doesn't make the ult cage next to a wall, she can't stun you either without using player created terrain.

I'm perfectly fine with it ending if she dies, which should be what happens anyways, which is what I agree with you on. I'm not fine with you crying about it otherwise and just bawling in your ignorance for any other aspect of it.

You went off on a completely different tangent and attacked me for it. Your original post was saying it's unreasonable for being caught by her ult. It's not. What is unreasonable is it not ending when she dies.

Magi Mayvin2 votes

All of my posts were saying that it should end when she dies, never said that her ult is overpowered Lol.Idk where you got that from but whatever.

Astôlfo1 votes

I said it was your fault for being alone and being caught out. You replied you weren't alone, but rather Camille's ultimate had knocked away your team.

If you are alone, you deserve to die. End of story. If you're not alone, hopefully, your team is intelligent enough to simply re-enter the coliseum and either harass her out or protect you for 4 seconds.

Camille can't kill you within the second between the knock back and the time it's take to re-enter the area without going full glass cannon AD so she could do Q1-regular non damage boosted Q2 to kill you quickly. At which point she'd be squishy enough to die in just about one combo from anyone anyways.

Ulquiorra99518 votes

I still think it makes zero sense how it's actually more rewarding to just knock Camille out than to actually fight and kill her. It'd be a fair and logical nerf to make it fizzle if she dies.

AirKingNeo3 votes

All things considered, Camille isn't terribly OP at the moment

I downvoted you on this alone.

Xyntheyxz6 votes

Apparently on hit ap Bard can counter Camille ult via his own ult.

Alex h87212 votes

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Apparently on hit ap Bard can counter Camille ult via his own ult.

Haha I like this counter. Camille ults adc/midlaner, bard ults on top of both of them, bards team gets there, Camille ult is gone and Camille dies. love it.

TFBaam1 votes

y on hit ap ??? !!!

Chaos6895 votes

Personally I can't win because if the Camille has the tiniest semblance of mechanics i'm dead to her 7k HP shield and 100% true damage titanic/Triforce Active proc by the time her double malphite ult range stun wears off...

Xonra4 votes

Yeah I'm kind of blinking at the "deleted her" part I keep seeing. Must have been a REALLY fed champion or a REALLY bad Camille. I've never seen a half competent Camille be deleted by anyone with that stupid shield and all the mobility.

CerealBoxOfDoom3 votes

that is kindof weird lol but technically she is still "in the ult"

Also isn't she some sort of avenger or something xD

Almighty3 votes

Just curious, which champion did you delete her with?

Almighty.

XOLeagueLife1 votes

Riven

Automated Riven1 votes

bad camille. riven cant delete her unless she goes glass cannon or some shit. a beefy camille beats riven unless riven is ahead.

XOLeagueLife1 votes

Late game when everyones full build i guess. i have never had a problem against camille as riven early/mid game.

Melledoneus1 votes

Riven usually gets fed before her enemy laner gets beefy.

Biabri3 votes

The idea is that you aren't supposed to kill her ever, why would her developers make it so you can escape if you manage to?

Magi Mayvin2 votes

because it's fair and the lore shouldn't interfere with the gameplay balance?

Cookimonster3163 votes

Im pretty sure its a joke

Magi Mayvin1 votes

Can't always tell if it's a joke or not since some people really are that dumb and it's the internet so u can't see their faces and hear how their voice sounds

Smitty Manjensen2 votes

You can't expect that CertainlyT's apprentice would have put that counterplay in her kit.

IvarTheBoneless2 votes

I'd have to agree. Chomped her down mid lane early on with voli, 3/4's health left but her ult had me trapped in turret range. Took 4 turret shots and she got the shut down. Such skill.

Surr20plz1 votes

OP is right that's how it should be.

SkywallkerA1 votes

Agree

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

It still shocks me that it didn't work that way on release.

Cowseed1 votes

But if it doesn't it can't work as an anti-dive tool.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

But her body hasn't left the zone.

FourVsFive1 votes

Get redemption item and when you use ult make support use redemption that heals for crap ton and does more true dmg.

Echo5451 votes

What people don't realize, is that all her ult is after she dies is a giant stage for you to dance and dance and dance http://pa1.narvii.com/5789/216b19582727822762bf3873d3d5f262c4817cc0_hq.gif

Morticianjohn1 votes

It does make sense that if she "dies" she has "left the arena". I don't think this is a particularly meaningful thing to complain about and it doesn't really bother me but I certainly agree that it makes sense for her ult to end if eh dies.

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