Yuumi is just awful now

DragonStryker·12/13/2019, 6:31:30 AM·15 votes·4,309 views

The recent changes to Yuumi have really hurt her. I understand that she is not the most liked Champ, and promoting a passive play style isn't exactly fun, but how have the recent changes moved toward accomplishing this? The worst offender is the W "Channel Time" when re-attaching. It actively promotes NOT detaching, as having to hop back on feels awful. Also, if she detaches and gets hit with some CC (even a silence!) she just floats around uselessly.

Her E being a single charge means you just want to stay on the ADC all the time and give them buff, the Q time reduction just means you have to go for the quick shot, rarely will you pull off anything cool with it anymore, like hopping between 2 Champs to carry the Q further.

I really hope the balance team can take another pass at her soon, because as it stands, she is one of the most clunky and useless champs in the game now.

23 Comments

Tegash12/13/2019, 6:37:41 AM5 votes

I'm fine with the E and Q changes, especially now that her E can actually heal early, but the W "channel" feels extremely clunky. The 5 second cooldown on stopping it also feels extremely bad, since that's an eternity in a scrim or teamfight. I don't understand that particular change-- Riot said they wanted to move her away from a passive playstyle, but these W changes only reward her for staying attached to her carry.

RedOpticToxin12/13/2019, 7:10:03 AM5 votes

I agree this champ is very weak. I think reverting q duration back to 3 seconds and removing w channel time should put the champ in a good spot. The only annoying part about the champ was the q damage which they nerfed so now its fine. The champ as of rn feels like .5 a champion

Malix Farwin12/13/2019, 7:02:02 AM4 votes

My biggest problem is with the Q and E(as well as W feeling awful now but thats secondary). Q effively does nothing but fluff damage with insane mana cost.

To put it in perspective for you. Lulu's Q does 15 flat damage(Yes Lulu's normal Q does only 15 less base damage at max rank than Yuumi's empowered Q) BUT has higher scaling, can hit multiple Targets, slows for 80%, AND costs Less Mana. I am using Lulu as an example because every part of her kit does something and gives you decisions for different types of situations even the Q.

Lets talk about the E now. Rank one Whimsey from Lulu id better than a Max E for a steroid because it gives you 30% MS and ATK Speed for the same duration.

These changes just make her a worse Lulu.

Kanyoupipu12/13/2019, 7:43:45 AM4 votes

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The recent changes to Yuumi have really hurt her. I understand that she is not the most liked Champ, and promoting a passive play style isn't exactly fun, but how have the recent changes moved toward accomplishing this? The worst offender is the W "Channel Time" when re-attaching. It actively promotes NOT detaching, as having to hop back on feels awful. Also, if she detaches and gets hit with some CC (even a silence!) she just floats around uselessly.

Her E being a single charge means you just want to stay on the ADC all the time and give them buff, the Q time reduction just means you have to go for the quick shot, rarely will you pull off anything cool with it anymore, like hopping between 2 Champs to carry the Q further.

I really hope the balance team can take another pass at her soon, because as it stands, she is one of the most clunky and useless champs in the game now.

As she should be. Who thought taking an already passive/afk role (support) and making a literal afk champ was a good idea?

Salty Mc Feed12/13/2019, 5:52:57 PM3 votes

I think the champion is still fine you just can no longer stack AP to give a ton of stats and be ultimate afk support which is a bit sad, because it was funny. You just build full support now, because anything else is pointless. Her heal is strong but like all heals gets devalued hard by grievous wounds which is always shitty. The W cooldown and channel is not even so bad, just means you need to think more and pay more attention which to be fair is probably not the reason why you would pick Yuumi, but whatever. LUL

Sylaelque12/13/2019, 7:03:36 PM2 votes

As Yuumi main those changes really so awful. She doesn't have slow in her Q and now its damage nerfed as well, no additional heal for risky situations, can't hoop out to get passive shield, extremely high cost abilities with long cd without rewarding enough. There is nothing you can do against champions like Nautilus anymore. Feels so unsatisfying to play her right now. [sg-janna]

Emo Twink12/13/2019, 7:57:00 AM2 votes

With the Q duration nerf, just uncap the range because its so short and it'll stop a lot of frustration teammates and yuumi players have about her. Like a lot of these changes suck and I wouldve been happy with how she was, but if that change happens ill just accept the fate.

13TaylorSwift12/13/2019, 8:09:23 AM1 votes

They literally buffed her W and made her fair to play against. Her damage with Q as ap was off the chart as she could attach to someone like garen and spam q while being untargetable. Honestly she could never be balanced because of her broken W.

Karn Bishop12/13/2019, 3:57:08 PM1 votes

They need to admit these changes were a mistake like the changes they made to riven and LIKE RIVEN REVERT THEM until they have something that actually works without ruining the champion into an afk heal bot for a single adc which is what these changes did.

Garson21112/13/2019, 7:53:04 AM1 votes

When somone was Op and now its nerferd of course its feel awful

ºòwóª12/13/2019, 6:07:43 PM1 votes

shes not terrible, i think some changes need to be made though. Currently if she gets hit by basically any non-auto ability in the game it sets her attach on a 5 second cd. This 5 second cd remains throughout the entire game (im pretty sure?). I think the CD when hit by a cc ability should lower when her w is spec'd (since you max it last), meaning late game her 5 second cd lowers to something like 3/2 seconds. And, make it to where silences (like sorakas silence) dont put you on a 5 second cd. That to me is kinda strange, same with singed's mega adhesive since you already get locked out of w anyways. Stuff like stuns/snares should apply the CD, though.

WoonStruck12/13/2019, 6:49:19 AM1 votes

They didn't hurt her. Her playrate and winrate went up significantly.

She might feel worse to play, but she's better.

Statistics don't lie.