I feel like hyper carries like Jinx and Trist right now are pretty weak! Jinx feels clunky after the attack speed nerf to her Q, and I feel like it just takes way too long for these adc's to reach some carry potential. All the popular ADC's right now have pretty strong laning or safe laning, and can snowball with their early pressure. It's a hard meta for Jinx right now imo :/ thoughts?
disregardable1 votesJinx isn't a hyper carry, and she doesn't need buffs. It is a hard meta for her, yes, but she's not overly weak. She doesn't need to be one of the best ADCs as long as she's still viable.
Magnum Mack3 votesJinx has always been a hyper carry like vayne, Jinx just feels like shes a tad safer if you're smart. She's all about reckless engaging and those traps can save/end lives. Her q rockets needed a slow though. That atk speed with a runaan's and the aoe was just too much. Carpet bombings are for Corki.
She doesn't really NEED a buff, but I can tell you I'd abuse the crap out of her if they did. This meta ends a tad too quick for her to really unlock the full fury that is Jinx hypercarry, but she never felt not useful unless you're playing with a scrub who starts with vampiric scepter or something before a BF.
disregardable1 votessee post below.
Billy VoHagen1 votesJinx isn't a hyper carry
wut
disregardable1 votesHypercarry Curve: https://i.gyazo.com/32b60ee5a62594f5aeb42f4395aff76a.png
Jinx's Curve: https://i.gyazo.com/72649659852837253871254990722c9e.png
Hypercarries lose more games before the 25 minute mark and win exponentially more if the game lasts beyond 40 minutes. That curve has never been true for Jinx. Late game, the enemy team will have enough damage to just one shot her. If the game goes that late, she is extremely team reliant and it's basically a coin flip, unlike an actual hyper-carry (Vayne) that can consistently scale into an unstoppable monster.
Jinx is what I call a snowball carry. When she wins lane, she is essentially unstoppable for the next 10 minutes. She will shove quickly, dominate the enemy team, and end the game. That's her ideal power curve.
I'd like to correct another misconception about Jinx here: Her laning phase is not weak. Her early HARASS is comparatively weak, which is usually crucial to winning lane, but Jinx's lock down and finish during laning is incredibly strong. If you bring a competent Thresh, Blitzcrank, or Leona, that Jinx can easily win that lane.
So what if Jinx loses lane, because Lucian and Ezreal exist right now? Then if her team also lost lane she loses the game. She doesn't have any damage to bring to mid game teamfights and is still really vulnerable. If her team did well despite her, you can stall til late and see paragraph 1.
Edit: Closing Notes Here I'd like to add on that you can argue that it's because of the nerfs that she's like this. That is objectively untrue. Before the nerfs she had the curve of a straight up early game champion. 56% winrate before 30 minutes, gradually sloping down as time goes on
Billy VoHagen1 votesBuff Tristana. A bit more passive attack speed, and add an AD ratio to her ult that scales with ranks, something like 10-15-30%
MedjaiCarnage1 votes[{quoted}](name=Billy VoHagen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfHlL69w,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-09T18:50:23.835+0000)
Buff Tristana. A bit more passive attack speed, and add an AD ratio to her ult that scales with ranks, something like 10-15-30%
are you insane. tristana is literally the single dumbest champion in adc history. she is a hyper carry.....who excels at laning phase. if you buff her even alittle she will become insanely overpowered even more so than kog has been lately
