gragas massive nerf when?

You all need to understand something. Asking for nerfs makes you sound silly. First of all, even if you reduce gragas dmg, his cc is why people pick him, not his dmg. Also a 'proper' jungler, doesn't go for the kills and thus the extra gold. If you know how to jungle, you don't get the kills unless it's absolutely necessary. You give the kills to teammates. Junglers are kind like supports. So this means a good gragas player shouldn't be a huge threat dmg wise as much as a cc threat.

If you nerf gragas with the mentality that he is a jungler, you are pretty much screwing all the people who play gragas mid and top lane. Also gragas was already nerfed, so one more nerf on top of that is UNFAIR.

It'll probably come when his winrate is significantly above 51%.

Riot doesn't seem to notice the problem with a lot of these nearly perma banned AP tank junglers for some reason. Like they have as much early game pressure as AD bruiser and assassin junglers but scale a thousand times better into late game, not too mention a few of them like Gragas and Amumu do about as much if not more damage then most the other junglers on top of being ridiculously tankier.

So idk, I thought the nerfs would have happened by now, but instead they slightly nerf Cinderhulk hurting the other junglers who aren't OP and use it more so then broken ones like Gragas, and now they plan on chaning Abyssal Scepter to a state where it will be amazing on AP tanks like Gragas, Amumu, Cho, and Sejuani, essentially buffing most of the already OP as shit Ap tanks.

So yeah Riot has me really confused atm, cause there is an obviously lack of balance and diversity in the jungle atm and Riot doesn't seem to care :/

All i know is that last time i checked gragas was a mod laner with potential to play top lane. Just because someone tried him out in jungke and saw it worked it doesn't mean he must be nerfed.

There are still people who play him mid, and top and to nerf his dmg is kinda insulting to them because he was nerfed before.