http://image.prntscr.com/image/7193a445bc984512a029f424e7a43444.png consistently getting dumpstered by plats and above, 300 mmr difference??? What? I'm queued w/ my friend who's gold 5.. Also, this is probably the worst so far, but I've been against very high mmr players quite consistently this week, quite aggravating.
ZephyrDrake6 votesranked mmr =/= normal mmr they are two entirely different things*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*
Rivuo15 votesranked mmr =/= normal mmr they are two entirely different things*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*
That doesn't fucking matter. Why is a level 23 fighting diamonds.
Get real and stop ignoring the real problem
ZephyrDrake2 votesThat doesn't fucking matter. Why is a level 23 fighting diamonds.
Get real and stop ignoring the real problem
what problem? oh you mean something that has been happening since the game started? non lvl 30s playing against lvl 30s? if so sure that is an issue, stupid people complaining about "X guy is challenger i am Silver why am i getting him on my NORMAL games!?" well because NORMAL AND RANKED MMR are two entirely different things! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!
The Lexer4 votesok, and to you its fair for a beginner to play the best player in the world?
Mistress Madoka2 votesA Level 23 Queueing up with a Level 30 High MMR player will inevitably face More High MMR Players.
It's not Fair for the Beginner but it's how the system works. Don't wanna face Diamond players before you're even lvl 30? Don't queue up with your High Plat/Diamond Friend.
Provengreil1 votesHe Q'ed with a gold and the game is supposed to mix your MMRs, so he should have been fighting low silvers.....
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Lexer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EeEEeGjd,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-26T14:52:02.589+0000)
ok, and to you its fair for a beginner to play the best player in the world?
it's a normal game, i could care less about a beginner playing against the best player in the universe. Only way i will care is if said player is an ass but if he isn't then i don't care
Left Hook Larry2 votessaid player is an ass but if he isn't then i don't care
This is the problem with the game. People rather target "omg he called me a bad word" over actual fixes to the game
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=Savage Bear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EeEEeGjd,comment-id=000100000000000000010001,timestamp=2016-07-27T00:22:16.193+0000)
This is the problem with the game. People rather target "omg he called me a bad word" over actual fixes to the game
"actual fixes" by "actual fixes" you mean pretty much make normal games become ranked games. That's all it will happen when you unite both MMRs so at that point why even have a normal matchmaking then? if people are actually not being asses then there is not an issue with playing against a better player. You are learning things by playing against someone better that could even be willing to give you some pointers. If someone is literally harassing you then that's an issue. Sorry but there is no "actual fix" to be had other than "lets kill normal games"
Left Hook Larry1 votes"actual fixes" by "actual fixes" you mean pretty much make normal games become ranked games
I wasn't referring to this specifically. I meant the entire game. Riot's number one priority is toxicity and that's why we don't have a sandbox mode and why dynamic que is still around. It's pathetic. Idgaf if someone calls me a bad word on the internet. It happens on every game played online. Don't ruin the game to protect some 12 year olds feelings.
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=Savage Bear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EeEEeGjd,comment-id=00010000000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-28T22:20:32.623+0000)
I wasn't referring to this specifically. I meant the entire game. Riot's number one priority is toxicity and that's why we don't have a sandbox mode and why dynamic que is still around. It's pathetic. Idgaf if someone calls me a bad word on the internet. It happens on every game played online. Don't ruin the game to protect some 12 year olds feelings.
so what you are telling me is that it's ok for someone to come and curse others, threaten to kill others, be pretty much nothing but a gigantic assholes and pretty much just leave them alone because "it happens in other games" sorry but no, that is not acceptable in the slightest. This is not "trying to protect 12 year old feelings" is keeping people whose only purpose is to annoy and ruin games out of the game.
Left Hook Larry1 votesso what you are telling me is that it's ok for someone to come and curse others, threaten to kill others,
This rarely happens tbh. Most of the time in my games someone feeds their ass off and someone says something about it and is accused of being toxic. Something like "You're getting shit on, pls play safe." Rarely do I see someone say "KILL URSELF" or something like that. Obv those people need to be punished. But people in this game take everything that makes them salty as toxic. If you're 0-5 and someone says something like "stop feeding ffs" that's not toxic but most would say it is because riot focuses so much on this shit.
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=Savage Bear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EeEEeGjd,comment-id=0001000000000000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-29T22:15:25.456+0000)
This rarely happens tbh. Most of the time in my games someone feeds their ass off and someone says something about it and is accused of being toxic. Something like "You're getting shit on, pls play safe." Rarely do I see someone say "KILL URSELF" or something like that. Obv those people need to be punished. But people in this game take everything that makes them salty as toxic. If you're 0-5 and someone says something like "stop feeding ffs" that's not toxic but most would say it is because riot focuses so much on this shit.
if that was the only thing they said then sure, but then they keep on and on and on and on and on and on it gets really annoying to deal with someone that only knows how to annoy and frustrate. Every single other game does the exact same thing, Riot isn't the only game that focuses on HEALTHY player interaction, not on some douche that thinks that because it's an online game he can just say whatever he wants whenever he wants. Hell others games you have the advantage of just leaving the area, changing to a new instance or just logging off for a small while to deal with them while in league you have to deal with that person for 20+ mins and just muting them isn't enough since they can just keep annoying you in other ways (taking your cs, feeding, taking your buffs, leading the enemy to you... etc)
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Pika Fox3 votesThey queued with a level 30.
Mistress Madoka3 votesWhich actuall just answers OP's question.
If you Queue up with someone who is Higher Skilled/Leveled, you should expect to be matched up against similarly Skilled/Leveled opponents
Amelie4 votesI agree with that statement, but how were those opponents similarly skilled? The highest rank on his team was a Plat 5. The highest on the enemy was a Diamond 3 (not to mention the other Diamond player). That is a HUGE difference...
LordGeovanni1 votesyou dont know how people paly jsut because of their rank the plat players died quite a bit for the amount of gold players in the game if we just go off of ranks
Warlord Zudane1 votesWell.. maybe it was some bad 30's... but I was doing games with people at 30 when I was down to level 20. Just started this season - so it may be a lot of bad players... but still.
LordGeovanni1 votesim pretty sure the game doesnt have a constant supply of people under level 30 playing pvp so if you arent ready to face level 30 people pvp isnt where you should be.
Pika Fox4 votesHes right; normals MMR =/= ranked MMR. The two are separate, and it wouldnt make logical sense to really have them tied together. At that point, you might as well get rid of normals and have every game be ranked.
CppL2 votesranked mmr =/= normal mmr they are two entirely different things*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*
it doesnt matter ffs.A lvl 27 player shouldn't play against a fucking diamonds jesus...Whats why this game is dying.Old players leaving cause of the dynamic crap.New players getting flammed ,and stomped by a fucking smurfs and diamond players...jesus
ZephyrDrake2 votesit doesnt matter ffs.A lvl 27 player shouldn't play against a fucking diamonds jesus...Whats why this game is dying.Old players leaving cause of the dynamic crap.New players getting flammed ,and stomped by a fucking smurfs and diamond players...jesus
once again, normal mmr =/= ranked mmr. If the diamond player barely playued any normal games his normal mmr is going to suck ass! you already see lvl 30s against non lvl 30s what rank the lvl 30 is, is irrelevant. When people realize that normal and ranked MMR are two entirely different things then i can stop seeing stupid threads like these that do nothing at all.
CppL2 votesonce again, normal mmr =/= ranked mmr. If the diamond player barely playued any normal games his normal mmr is going to suck ass! you already see lvl 30s against non lvl 30s what rank the lvl 30 is, is irrelevant. When people realize that normal and ranked MMR are two entirely different things then i can stop seeing stupid threads like these that do nothing at all.
I know that ,and thats why normal game matchmaking is broken.I mean hes lvl 27 ,he doesn't even have a full masteries ffs (not even talking about runes and skill lvl).How is this balanced? give me a 1 good reason ,why a new player should keep playing this game? Cause getting flamed and destroyed before 5 mins mark ,its not really fun ,you know.
Pika Fox1 votesHe queued with a gold player; the game was never going to be fair in the first place.
Think about it; his team member is gold, he isnt level 30. Whats matchmaking going to do? If the enemy team has a bunch of golds as well, then hes still the weight. If the game has a bunch of under 30s, then the gold player is going to have a field day feasting on everyone.
Normals NEEDS to be able to allow anyone to play with anyone. 4 challenger players have a friend who just joined the game, so now you have 4 challengers and a level 1 playing the game together on normals. How are you going to balance that? Theres no way you can. You cant just wait for 4 more challenger players to queue up for a normals game.
ZephyrDrake1 votesI know that ,and thats why normal game matchmaking is broken.I mean hes lvl 27 ,he doesn't even have a full masteries ffs (not even talking about runes and skill lvl).How is this balanced? give me a 1 good reason ,why a new player should keep playing this game? Cause getting flamed and destroyed before 5 mins mark ,its not really fun ,you know.
let me ask you this then, what would be the point of having normal games if both the ranked mmr and normal mmr would be the same? no difference in opponents, no difference in how to play the game, no difference in anything since both are tied you won't go to normals and try something new or just have some fun. Normal matchmaking is there for you to have fun and try stupid things, high ranked players barely go there and when they do is to try something stupid and have fun.
New players will continue playing the game based on their preferences not random things i can say. If people are toxic guess what? report them so they can be dealt with
Critmaster Garen1 votesranked mmr =/= normal mmr they are two entirely different things*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*
why though? is there any reason not to have ranked mmr factor into normal mmr to create better balance beteen the matches?
every season break is pretty much a clown fiesta in normals, because every player who otherwise exclusively plays ranked and has a high ranked mmr and a low normal mmr goes into normals. games are mixed matches between bronzies and d1 players during that time.
i wouldnt expect normals to be balanced, but such extreme differences in mmr could be avoided imo.
it doesnt help the ranked players either. when they want to try experimenting with new champions and builds and just get to play against a bunch of bronzies and unranked palyers they would stomp on ad soraka, they dont get any valuable feedback on how good well that champion/build works in a ranked game at their level.
Dominick Destine3 votesUnranked doesn't take rank into consideration.
This should go without saying.
Y0ooo3 votesWell.. the entire point of a matchmaking system is to create an decently balanced match, is it not? A blind person could tell that that isn't a good match up.
Pika Fox2 votesExcept the issue you seem to be missing is that matchmaking is blind. Its intentionally made to be; your normals MMR and ranked MMR are entirely separate. The game has 0 idea that the person is diamond in normals Queue.
And lets be real here; if they are diamond in ranked, theyll rank up in normals similarly eventually.
Maximum Morde3 votesPersonally, I think if you group queue it should put you up against challenger smurfs to get raped over and over.
PhDs Nuts1 votesBeen saying it for 3 years: Normal MMR should be based on the higher MMR between normal and ranked.
R2D201 votesIf that's a smurf account that probably has something to do with it too...
