AFK LP

64539310_DEL·Aug 12, 2015·10 votes·1,470 views

So I played ranked recently and we lost because someone went afk. It was a good match so I only lost 16 LP, but could this change? I really don't think it's fair in ranked to lose a game with one or two people afk and still lose LP. The winning team would still get 100% of the LP they earned, but the people who weren't afk on the losing side don't gain or lose any. Of course whoever went afk would still lose LP as additional punishment for going afk. Is there a chance of a system like this ever being implemented into the game? I just really hate it when I personally am doing well and suddenly a key member leaves without a word. Anyone agree? Disagree?

20 Comments

ErnaemAug 12, 20156 votes

This is a good idea, but there's an essential concept that needs to be understood.

You can't have one team gain LP without the other team losing the same (or at least, on average, the same) amount of LP.

The entire LP system requires that for every point gained, there is a point lost. If some players gain LP, while others keep all of theirs, the entire LP system would become inflated.

I am a HUGE supporter of Riot fixing the AFK/griefer/troll problem, but it's more complicated than it may seem to actually accomplish.

EightBitWorldAug 30, 20151 votes

{quoted}

This is a good idea, but there's an essential concept that needs to be understood.

You can't have one team gain LP without the other team losing the same (or at least, on average, the same) amount of LP.

The entire LP system requires that for every point gained, there is a point lost. If some players gain LP, while others keep all of theirs, the entire LP system would become inflated.

I am a HUGE supporter of Riot fixing the AFK/griefer/troll problem, but it's more complicated than it may seem to actually accomplish.

This is a great reason why LP is taken away from a loss in ranked, even due to an AFK. It should not however be so harsh. I understand the gaining of one party, and losing of another. Instead, both teams should gain or lose ( depending if your the victor or not ) a decreased amount of LP. I myself just had a game where a teammate AFK'ed right at the beginning, before minions spawn. I lost 22 LP. This needs to be taken care of. Climbing the ranked ladder is hard enough, and rightly so, but when there is a problem, completely out of your control, you cannot but help feel cheated by the system. If the system doesn't work, then change it. RIOT does a great job at this already, so I do not see a problem why this should continue for so much longer.

Sona PingAug 12, 20152 votes

It was a good match so I only lost 16 LP, but could this change?

Uhh, yes? Because the LP gained/lost is not based on how "good" a game it was.

64539310_DELAug 12, 20151 votes

What's it based off of then?

Sona PingAug 12, 20151 votes

Your MMR; how the MMR of the players in the game compare to each other.

64539310_DELAug 12, 20151 votes

ah. Ok

Blue SocialistAug 12, 20152 votes

A main reason Riot doesn't do something like this is because of the potential for members of a team to flame a member to just afk or something like that. It's been mentioned plenty of times when suggestions like these come up

64539310_DELAug 12, 20151 votes

Hmmm. I just wish there was some other way to do it. It's just not fair to have 4 people completely lose and suffer the consequence because of one person. In normal it's not as bad because there's not much at stake. But in ranked you're talking about potentially losing your current rank.

Blue SocialistAug 12, 20151 votes

Yeah, well aware, it's just a matter of solving one problem could easily lead to another

LegacyDAPAug 12, 20151 votes

Honestly if I were the person getting flamed. I'd stay to make those idiots pay for flaming, and then I could report them after too.

PL55Aug 12, 20151 votes

If someone is flaming me, the last thing I would do is leave so they don't lose lp.

g07h4xf00Aug 13, 20151 votes

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A main reason Riot doesn't do something like this is because of the potential for members of a team to flame a member to just afk or something like that. It's been mentioned plenty of times when suggestions like these come up

Garbage excuse, garbage game company. If the player who AFKs is the only one to lose LP then nobody is going to want to do it even when pressured. Just mute your team and keep playing.

Azure HamsterAug 13, 20152 votes

Statistically, for each game you lose due to an AFK on your team, you will win one due to an AFK on the other team. It all works out in the long run.

64539310_DELAug 13, 20151 votes

click on the link to go to a new page: boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/sAbrpOrG-afk-lp-issue-reposted-solved

StealthWardenAug 12, 20151 votes

you very different questions.

Is there a chance of a system like this ever being implemented into the game?

No. Riot has not yet figured out how to make their system pliable, so it will remain rigid, incomplete, infantile, and rudely unjust.

Anyone agree?

Hell yes we do! nobody wants to lose lp because of an afk dickhead! No one wants to lose lp because of a thunderstorm either, but they do happen and sometimes you are stuck with an isp like timewarnercable...and your just fucked sometimes because of "reasons". And the only excuse Riot has is "Since we cant tell the difference between intentional connection loss and accidental, everybody gets screwed" so there it is.

64539310_DELAug 12, 20152 votes

What if instead making the losing side not lose any LP you instead make it a 25% reduction per each afk person. (ex. 2 people afk = 50% reduction. 3 = 75%. 4 = 100%) The only way a person could not lose any LP would be if 4 people went afk which is completely insane and doesn't happen often. That makes proper compensation for that one person who got screwed over.

64539310_DELAug 13, 20152 votes

boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/sAbrpOrG-afk-lp-issue-reposted-solved

Finn Teh HumanAug 12, 20151 votes

I agree that it's not fair to lose LP because of someone else, especially when they AFK.

Puppet33rAug 13, 20151 votes

Yeah this is really dumb. I just got demoted after 2 games in a row with a person just being afk from the start. And, while I can understand rito's reluctantance to lower lp loss due to people going afk every time a match is lost, surely something can be done to lower lp loss if a person is afk from the very beginning. And then figuring out whether he was afk on purpose or just had technical difficulties and punishing accordingly.

64539310_DELAug 13, 20151 votes

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