Don't understand the forums.

Emperor Time··1 votes·242 views

People love to complain how broken Lee is, but when you mention Rengar, everyone defends this champion. Legit Rengar is stronger than Lee in solo Q because he can 1 shot almost any target out of stealth if played properly. Whereas if Lee isn't played perfectly he get's destroyed. Also people claim Lee has no counters, but has anyone forgot that Nocturne exists?! You can literally spellshield 50% of his kit's entire damage output. Poppy also is a pretty big counter to Lee because of her W. I would say that Lee is only good in competitive play and that's about it. He's decent in solo q in the hands of someone who is a professional on the champion, but even then he's not that great compared to other solo Q picks at the moment. I will give in to the fact that Lee does have a shit ton of mobility and that this is probably the reason why he is able to do so well in the competitive environment, but honestly I don't think Lee needs nerfs because of this. Because in doing so it would make him completely unplayable in solo Q and then we will have another Elise problem. I think the best possible solution for this issue would be to just rework some parts of Lee's kit. His W in particlular is what I would like to see reworked so that he isn't so reliant on using this item item 1408. I wouldn't be opposed to Lee's entire kit being reworked because to me it doesn't really give off the feel of being a blind monk.

Anyways TL:DR Rengar is way more broken than Lee and has less counterplay. Lee is extremely hard to play correctly at a high level and is punished really hard when behind. His high winrate in competitive is due to the fact that he has high mobility and catch potential plus people being gods on that champion. I wouldn't be opposed to a Lee rework.

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Trylobyte1 votes

People hate Lee because he's been popular, effective, and powerful since he was released. He's never really had a period where he's fallen anywhere below average. Even when he's not seeing a lot of high-level play he's still widely complained about because he's just one of those champions that, when they do well, you really notice everything they do, but when they suck they're invisible and people don't notice.

Penns1 votes

Im pretty sure both of them are "complained about".

But at least Rengar NEEDS to build full damage and probably even crit to oneshot anyone and even if he does, he cant really tank or get out. Meanwhile Lee can go full tank after warrior + BC and still basically oneshot any squishy. Not to mention his over the top mobility, low cooldowns and his panic button with 2 mini stuns built in because who needs to aim skillshots?

Like, you cant just put 480% bonus AD scaling on a heavy mobility + utility early game jungler like Lee lol.

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