Question regarding Bami's cinder triggering electrocute

Remmeh·Sep 25, 2018·1 votes·1,527 views

Hey everyone,

Today I faced an Garen who I thought I had the jump on as Poppy. I've played against Garen as Poppy before and Garen is an easy to understand champion so its an pretty selfexplaining lane. Untill he started triggering his electrocute proc with bami's cinder. As soon as he got that item and I would come close when he'd Q me it would just trigger.

And the explenation on electrocute reads; PASSIVE: Basic attacks and abilities generate stacks on enemy champions hit, up to one per attack or cast. Applying 3 stacks to a target within a 3 second period causes them to be struck by lightning

Meaning you have to use autoattacks and abilities on QWER to get your stacks of electrocute.

Bami's cinder, or Sunfire cape both say that the damage you do from these two items is passive damage.. Meaning that its not considered an autoattack, nor the use of an ability..

So with that in mind.. WHY does this even happen? The discription makes it illogical for sunfire cape or bami's cinder to trigger the electrocute proc, (cause like I said the damage from bami's cinder isnt an autoattack nor the use of an ability) and whats more.. There is no real counterplay to this. (unless you just avoid Garen alltogether)

Cause in the end bami's cinder makes it so that you dont have to use resources (other then the cost of the item) to trigger an electrocute proc. What I found balanced about the electrocute rune was that people had to spend mana or time (cooldowns) on you, so taking damage still had some sort of an upside, and you could play around it.

This however felt a little to wierd and unfair and was wondering if others felt the same, and how people deal with this.

And as a sidequestion if they plan to do something about this cause this garen wrecked me when I am generally the one thats whooping Garen butt as Poppy.

Please dont think this some babyrage post, I am legit confused and hope someone who knows a bit more about stuff like this could elaborate a bit further.

4 Comments

GaliöSep 25, 20182 votes

It is triggered by a source of damage. Items, smite, ignite all also trigger electrocute.

Its been that way for 10 months now.

RemmehSep 25, 20181 votes

I've been playing this game for only 9. There is alot to learn and this is the first time I see item damage effecting this specific rune. Furthermore; Ahri is the only champ I play that uses the electrocute rune so my knowledge on it is very limited.

I am an newer player, which is why I asked about it and how people normally play around it.

Excuse me for not being fully up to date =D Thank you for the reply, could have done without the snarky comment at the end.

GaliöSep 25, 20182 votes

I apologize for being snarky. It's just I see this thread once or twice a week for a long while now. Repetative threads kind of a pet peeve of mine. There is a lot of nuanced interactions in this game that i may take for granted, however you can search through the boards for this discussion. Again sorry I was aggresive in my answer.