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Poppy nerfs?

InHaruhiWeTrust·3/24/2016, 1:01:53 AM·3 votes·1,704 views

poppy might be a little strong right now, but holy hell three abilities get heavy nerfs?! what in the hell is the deal with balance in this game? poppy has been hovering around a 50% winrate until last patch she got up to 52.5%. like why do some champs get the nerf bat the second they get a little strong, while others cough Zed coughGraves cough cough Janna COUGH! MasterYi cough Quinn COUGH!!!!!!!!!! Udyr get to remain insanely strong for multiple patches? and when they do get nerfs its a laughable slap on the wrist like with Udyr. i know... blah blah winrates don't mean everything blah blah, but come on! almost all of these champs have very high ban rates as well. poppy has a respectable 20% ban rate, but why nerf her so hard? also meanwhile Ekko who has a very respectable 51+% winrate is getting buffs? where is the consistency? yi is one of THE easiest champs in the game to play and has a 53% winrate with an 11% playrate and a 40% ( compared to poppy 52.4%/8%/20%), but he gets what? a nerf to base scaling..... while also getting compensation in base dmg and increase AD scaling on bonus AD.... udyr has a 54% winrate (he's maintained above a 54% since well before season 6 started) 8% play and 54% ban AFTER he got "nerfed". when he got "nerfed" he had a 57.5% winrate and what does he get? 20 point off his shield at max rank and 20 dmg off his pheonix at max rank..... meanwhile Viktor who had a 46.7% winrate that same patch gets 20 dmg off his E and is now sitting at a 44.5% winrate.....

sorry for the rant. probs gonna get a bunch of downvotes, but this was the final straw for me. who riot buffs and nerfs have been confusing me for awhile now, but i held my tongue. this huge poppy nerf really chaffed my testicles enough that i had to make a post about this.

edit: here is a link to the poppy nerfs http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

10 Comments

Jbels3/24/2016, 1:08:54 AM1 votes

That's because the balance team is full of idiots. They nerf the wrong things at the wrong times way too often, and then when champions become useless, they wonder why the people who play those new champions/reworks become pissed off

Valderis Vandala3/24/2016, 3:10:05 AM1 votes

You know what's useful when you complain about stuff? A link!

Here ya go, was that so hard? Now we at least know what you're complaining about. http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

And yes the poppy nerfs suck.

ßurst3/24/2016, 5:21:19 AM1 votes

Literally all the champs you mentioned were mostly nerfed except ekko, poppy is stupid she has too much cc with little cd, a spamable q that HURTS A LOT while being tankier than a garen, unreal, zed is getting nerfs which has been comfirmed, udyr got nerfs today, janna, master yi, quinn yea she needs her kncokback on e like taken out or something, graves got nerfed a decent amount already. The reason yi's total ad scaling was nerfed to bonus was cuz of his tanky build steraks doesnt benefit it anymore, he needs more dmg not just 2 items now and so on.

Stephenizgod3/24/2016, 5:28:16 AM1 votes

Win/Pick/Banrate by itself doesn't mean anything, Poppy is performing beyond her intended strengths and not enough weaknesses. She is too strong for what she can do and pretty much all other Top laners are having issues dealing with her. When a champion is this dominate in a lane and we know why, its going to be nerfed.

BTW in case you want a reason as to why Win/Pick/Banrate by itself means nothing here is one: Just because Poppy is performing good, doesn't mean her teammates are.

You need to look at how the champion is performing in their intended roles and positions.

Billy VoHagen3/24/2016, 7:13:54 AM1 votes

I like how half the champions you listed got nerfed or have nerfs on pbe.

Hellhammer3/24/2016, 10:34:10 PM1 votes

How i feel is this, " Poppy was reworked from an unviable champion and made viable again" - her rework took 10 months or so.... lets sit down and talk poppy nerfs.

  1. her Shield toss?, so riot reduced the range of it?, how about this.... since people step on my shield like they're stomping out a lit cigerette like it offends me?, even I'll admit people die to step on that shield for nothing. I would be 100% ok if it doubled the duration before i got my shield back to throw... it just makes sense

  2. So her Hammershock, people !.! over this ability so much, fact is your standing around in it?

  3. her W, it speeds her up and is a dash canceler, with a mega CD that comes with a slight passive thats almost nil from her old Poppy passive.

  4. her heroic charge, the range, damage and stun when landed is everything it deserves to be, because its not a surprise when it happens, you stood next to the wall, and she has to see you, its interaction has become better after the rework, bottom line if your hit with a wall slam you did it to yourself...

  5. her ult, this ult is probably not the most glamerous ult, but it has its uses, every now n then i have issues where it gets stuck on, other than that when you don't 100% count on this ability , and take it with a gain of salt its good for what it is.

Conclusion. Nerfing poppy that hardcore makes me just want the old one back, I don't know what happens up top because I normally play her bottom, jungle and mid.