@Meddler Any plans for Zed?

Helmino··2 votes·702 views

Hi! I'm just curious if there are any plan for Zed in the future (i will ask you mercy for my bad english here before you read my entire post :) ). Zed is a champion with a strong identity and a lot of strenght and weaknesses, but i think that the only viable choice to play him is to split push only, a scenario that can't happen all the time. With Quicksilver and Zhonya he's assassination task is diffficult but fair, but if we add some recent addition to the mixture like Tahm and Kindred's ult this become almost impossible. An assassin have to choose the right moment to assassinate that's true, but with that array of defensive options is almost impossible to score a single ultimate in some game with Zed, aside from laning phase. Unlike Talon i think that Zed burst (unless snowballed) have to rely almost on he's Ultimate, and with the Botrk as a core item to stay on the target i think that he cannot use all off he's scale on the Q in a efficent way. I'm not here to complain about balance, i'm just curious what you guys think about him and if you plan to add to him more utilty instead of numbers tweaks, or simply leave him as it is. For example adding a slow on E without shadow, and a stronger slow if both shadow and Zed hit the target with E, will lead to a different build path without Botrk and a more bursty first item to help him assassinate without ulti (just my 2 cents here sorry if this sounds stupid). Maybe the preseason Itemization will help our beloved assassins ina healthy way? Thanks for your attention :)

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TehNACHO2 votes

I think it's fair that Zed's assassinations are less reliable as the game scales on.

Unlike for example Talon, Zed has the safest Assassination of the AD Assassins. That should come with an evident trade.

Helmino1 votes

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I think it's fair that Zed's assassinations are less reliable.

Unlike for example Talon, Zed has the safest Assassination of the AD Assassins. That should come with an evident trade.

What you say is right, but i think that for exaple using talon coul lead to more succes than play Zed nowadays, simply for hows Zed ulti mechanically interact with items and skills that counter him. thanks for your toughts :)

Dreadlocks3 votes

Zed has way more utility than Talon. Talon can't do anything after he goes in. Once he kills his target, he is defensless. Zed can R back to his original position, or even W somewhere. Aside from that Zed can W over walls and such and Talon needs a target. Zed should struggle to assassinate people, hes safer when he does it at all stages of the game. Even his lane phase is safer than Talon. Zed has an easier resource bar to manage in lane @ further range. All this is a justifiable for Zeds struggles to assassinate.

1000angrybees2 votes

Zed has one of the best laning phases for an Assassin, if not THE best. The only thing he has to even manage is making sure he hits with at least one shuriken when he pokes/harasses, and his energy in the early game (even then... it's still energy.)

Dreadlocks2 votes

yeah and he has such easy farming tools with W E Talon needs a tiamat to wave clear quickly.

Ralanr1 votes

You could say that Zed took the easy path to power.

1000angrybees2 votes

I wish they'd change his ult. It's honestly not fun for anyone involved, nor is it really well designed.

Chuck Charles1 votes

Watch my friends stream and you will see current zed is very viable still. You have to adjust build path and summoner spell exhaust instead of ignite to be relevant late game. He is master tier and builds zed normally until 3rd and 4th item and goes into a crit based build. And with zeds bonus ad passive on w, his crits are deadly come late game. Not just plugging him, crit zed is viable and strong late game. He says exhaust makes them choose to QSS your ult or the ensuing exhaust.

Twitch.tv/thetyrant_lol

Helmino1 votes

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Watch my friends stream and you will see current zed is very viable still. You have to adjust build path and summoner spell exhaust instead of ignite to be relevant late game. He is master tier and builds zed normally until 3rd and 4th item and goes into a crit based build. And with zeds bonus ad passive on w, his crits are deadly come late game. Not just plugging him, crit zed is viable and strong late game. He says exhaust makes them choose to QSS your ult or the ensuing exhaust.

Twitch.tv/thetyrant_lol

Thanks for the link, i go for crit build too, i just feel there are a lot of defensive options to counetr zed that i find him not as good as he was before.

Chuck Charles1 votes

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Thanks for the link, i go for crit build too, i just feel there are a lot of defensive options to counetr zed that i find him not as good as he was before.

He's not as good as before, but he was dominant and basically pick ban before. He was too strong in his hey day. He is still strong, just not nearly as overbearing as he was

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